Nate you really should be quoting Ace about that. i'm not here enough to know really. i'm just responding to post based of what i know, and what info's given to me.

Sony had decent deals and a reasonable price for a console for that time period in the generation. To say MS victory is due to failure on Sony's part is both arrogant in it's own right and quite unfair. MS had a huge success and it was not at the failure of others. They offered the console for $349 + 2 games + a $50 gift card on top of deals retailers were offering. They did so well because they made a huge sacrifice(a sacrifice that should be respected, accepted, and acknowledged) that made the cost of the console even cheaper than the wii u. They made their console the cheapest/greatest value per cost on the market during November and it paid off.

More like $ony's financial problems and Sony fanboys' arrogance. Would love to see their reactions next for December lol.

If they're outselling the X1 11 out of 12 months by 200k-300k each month why is it bigger news when the X1 drops its price $100, offers free games among other things, and still only manages to beat the PS4 by only 300+k in X1's home territory. People are reacting as if Sony sold 200k to MS's 1.2 million.

Do people actually know what arrogant means? MS were desparate and needed to get rid of stock that was building up. It had nothing to do with any Sony arrogance.

No, they barely even tried. There were no big exclusives. I mean, of course there were some bundles but no price drops. Seems like they are more interested in profits right now.

but it wont, so that doesn't matter. xb1 will win december too probably. But not the rest of next year. Remember, xb1 is still many hundred thousand behind in usa

You mad bro? 

PS4 is already selling like crazy. They probably relied on LBP3 which did not workout.

The bundles it had are last gen games and although much better ones. It could not stop the COD AW and also Unity bundle of Xbone.

I cannot say if it will or won't but if MS has price advantage still, i would not count them out.