Seece said: OfficerRaichu15 said: WhiteEaglePL said: 1.3m you know everyone thought 1 m illion first week for mario kart was unlikely but it did it so don't be surprised if this could possibly happen in its biggest market In the US? (Check the title) no it didn't. It didn't crack 1m until July/August.

I know it didnt I am talking about nintendo games doing more than people thought so you shouldn't be surprised if it does 1 milion(It has a big enough userbase to do it).

Not like Halo, and the smaller userbase to boot.

I know that mario kart 8 ended above people's general expectations.

This is smash, during holidays, it's on a whole different level than a collection.

This "collection" will outsell MK's first 2 months combined. Why do you keep trying to undersell it like it's not gonna do huge numbers.

Very much doubt Smash > Halo when NPD rolls around.

I would agree but i wouldn't be surprised if SSB FW > MCC. I know Halo FW normally hits as high as COD in the US. FPS tend to do that more,and aside from COD , Halo is probably the biggest in sales.

That said SSB has imo huge FW (hard to go buy as only 2 games to go by) and the hype is through the roof. I usually ask my gamestop manager wats going in preorders/sales (for not only mine, but the other 2 that are close as midnight launches are all athis store which = 3stores!) and funny thing was to our surprise, Aside from COD, it looks like the top games were ORAS (obviously), Halo MCC, GTA5, SSBU. Surprised FC4+AC:U+AC:R (more unity) didnt do as much as they expected it to, especially compared to Black Flag last year.

Halo is probably the biggest FW franchise in the US thats exclusive. Not fair to have all games pitted towards it. Its almost like if somebody said halo doesn't do well but only when you compare it to GTA/COD. Samehere, SSBU is selling like crack, tbh i wouldnt be surprise excluding COD, top sku for the month are all between Halo:MCC/OR/AS/SSBU. 

WhiteEaglePL said: 1.3m

45% attach rate first week ... smh.

why do you keep saying that? the smash fanbase is as big as halo's, but smash is a new game while this halo isn't.

Because that isn't true. Artificially high Wii sales of the game do not = fanbase, go look at other Nintendo franchises as a comparison for this.

Halo is in the 6 - 7m range (and 4m for side titles), Smash is in the 3 - 4m. And that's with it being a leggy franchise. So why people are expecting such a huge FW week on what is by far their smallest ever userbase for a Smash release is beyond me.

Like I said. What you're saying about Smash should be true about MK (Sold a lot last gen, huge franchise) yet it hasn't sold as fast as Halo MCC in the US.

In US? because MK8 will probably be on top worldwide since week one. I'm not underselling, you are the one overselling, as if it were a brand new halo. I'm saying it will sell for what it is, a collection. if it were halo 5 vs smash wii u, then there would be competition.

Had to check, MCC FW > MK8 2 months (more like 37 days though) is definitely possible (885k sold).

Halo > Smash NPD, it also helps out that its 2 out 10 days longer for a bigger gap (note im not saying it would beat it same day release). That said SSBU>Halo in Dec, and might surpass it herein the US

BTW when does Nov NPD end? Nov 29th or Dec 6th?