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vivster said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Well, to me, it doesn't sound like that G-Sync is what most people are focusing on atm when it comes to buying a new monitor cause I feel like that more people will be focusing on the 4k rather than G-Sync or Freesync until 4k monitors become very affordable for consumers. Now, I am not saying the technology is useless and I am well aware that its a big improvement over normal V-sync but I do think that if given the choice between 4k or G-Sync/FreeSync, I think people would rather choose 4k or wait for a true 4k level monitor with FreeSync/G-Sync rather than buy a 1440p or 1080p monitor with G-Sync/FreeSync

And sure, the "Enthusiast" Level PC gamers will buy it no matter as well as buy 4k monitors but I don't really think that they are the vast majority of the PC gamers out there

No one is really caring to get one right now because they are barely available. The selection really bad. I probably wouldn't get a G-Sync monitor right now even if someone gave me the money for it.

Free Sync monitors don't even exist yet so it's hard to get many people excited about it.

I suppose but to me, it doesn't exactly seem like manufacturers are lineing up to make G-sync enabled monitors either. We won't really know for FreeSync until it comes out but again, (as of right now) it seems that more manufactureres are trying to get 4k out of the way cause its the "new hot thing that people want" and then later down the line, when 4k becomes more affordable for consumers, implement things such as FreeSync and G-Sync rather than just implementing either from the gecko. I am sure there will be some models of 4k or lower (as there already are some for 1440p and 1080p) with either G-Sync or FreeSync avaliable but in terms of becoming very popular, I think it will be a bit later down the line.



                  

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Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
Captain_Tom said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Yes, hence why I said in the future... They will


I see no reason why some of the first ones wouldn't support it.  4K requires DP and so does Freesync.  Freesync will be a premium feature at first and 4k very much so is a premium feature now.  Expect to seem sooner rather than later.

There are 4k monitors already out and most dont support it so... And yes, when 4k becomes more affordable for consumers, then people would choose the ones with G-sync/FreeSync but it will be in the future...

Just to clarify, by future do you mean a couple years from now?  4K monitors are already ~$500 and when I say Freesync ones will be available soon I mean within a few months since obviously  freesync doesn't come out for a few weeks at the earliest.



Captain_Tom said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
Captain_Tom said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Yes, hence why I said in the future... They will


I see no reason why some of the first ones wouldn't support it.  4K requires DP and so does Freesync.  Freesync will be a premium feature at first and 4k very much so is a premium feature now.  Expect to seem sooner rather than later.

There are 4k monitors already out and most dont support it so... And yes, when 4k becomes more affordable for consumers, then people would choose the ones with G-sync/FreeSync but it will be in the future...

Just to clarify, by future do you mean a couple years from now?  4K monitors are already ~$500 and when I say Freesync ones will be available soon I mean within a few months since obviously  freesync doesn't come out for a few weeks at the earliest.

Well... the 4k monitors we have right now are, for the most part, pretty terrible... A lot of the "lower" end 4k monitors such as the dell one which costs $500 have issues such as having a 30hz refresh rate or having terrible color shift when viewing from different angles and etc so I think that 4k still has a bit ways to go before things like IPS panels get implemented at an affordable price.

And yes, freesync is not available yet but I do think that it will only really start to take off near the end of 2015 to 2016 at minimum. There will be monitors with either freesync or g sync enabled but for the most part, I doubt they will be worth it for most people until 4k ready monitors become more affordable and less shitty



                  

PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850

Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
Captain_Tom said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
Captain_Tom said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Yes, hence why I said in the future... They will


I see no reason why some of the first ones wouldn't support it.  4K requires DP and so does Freesync.  Freesync will be a premium feature at first and 4k very much so is a premium feature now.  Expect to seem sooner rather than later.

There are 4k monitors already out and most dont support it so... And yes, when 4k becomes more affordable for consumers, then people would choose the ones with G-sync/FreeSync but it will be in the future...

Just to clarify, by future do you mean a couple years from now?  4K monitors are already ~$500 and when I say Freesync ones will be available soon I mean within a few months since obviously  freesync doesn't come out for a few weeks at the earliest.

Well... the 4k monitors we have right now are, for the most part, pretty terrible... A lot of the "lower" end 4k monitors such as the dell one which costs $500 have issues such as having a 30hz refresh rate or having terrible color shift when viewing from different angles and etc so I think that 4k still has a bit ways to go before things like IPS panels get implemented at an affordable price.

And yes, freesync is not available yet but I do think that it will only really start to take off near the end of 2015 to 2016 at minimum. There will be monitors with either freesync or g sync enabled but for the most part, I doubt they will be worth it for most people until 4k ready monitors become more affordable and less shitty


Again wrong.  My brother bought a NEW Samsung 4K 60Hz monitor for under $600 a few months ago.  Yeah it isn't IPS, but its color is still far and above most 1080p monitors, and you get 4x the resolution.  They are already here, look around.



Can't wait to see all this fancy tech in person!



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Captain_Tom said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Well... the 4k monitors we have right now are, for the most part, pretty terrible... A lot of the "lower" end 4k monitors such as the dell one which costs $500 have issues such as having a 30hz refresh rate or having terrible color shift when viewing from different angles and etc so I think that 4k still has a bit ways to go before things like IPS panels get implemented at an affordable price.

And yes, freesync is not available yet but I do think that it will only really start to take off near the end of 2015 to 2016 at minimum. There will be monitors with either freesync or g sync enabled but for the most part, I doubt they will be worth it for most people until 4k ready monitors become more affordable and less shitty


Again wrong.  My brother bought a NEW Samsung 4K 60Hz monitor for under $600 a few months ago.  Yeah it isn't IPS, but its color is still far and above most 1080p monitors, and you get 4x the resolution.  They are already here, look around.

Whats the model number cause from the reviews I have seen... The Problems of TN is still there with a lot of color shift in the vertical angles as well as the colors being a saturated at the top vs the bottom. Again, my point is, first they need to get the display features right by having options such as an affordable IPS 4k display before they will widely implement things like FreeSync and G-Sync which is still, I would say, almost a year away before it really starts taking off



                  

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Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
Captain_Tom said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Well... the 4k monitors we have right now are, for the most part, pretty terrible... A lot of the "lower" end 4k monitors such as the dell one which costs $500 have issues such as having a 30hz refresh rate or having terrible color shift when viewing from different angles and etc so I think that 4k still has a bit ways to go before things like IPS panels get implemented at an affordable price.

And yes, freesync is not available yet but I do think that it will only really start to take off near the end of 2015 to 2016 at minimum. There will be monitors with either freesync or g sync enabled but for the most part, I doubt they will be worth it for most people until 4k ready monitors become more affordable and less shitty


Again wrong.  My brother bought a NEW Samsung 4K 60Hz monitor for under $600 a few months ago.  Yeah it isn't IPS, but its color is still far and above most 1080p monitors, and you get 4x the resolution.  They are already here, look around.

Whats the model number cause from the reviews I have seen... The Problems of TN is still there with a lot of color shift in the vertical angles as well as the colors being a saturated at the top vs the bottom. Again, my point is, first they need to get the display features right by having options such as an affordable IPS 4k display before they will widely implement things like FreeSync and G-Sync which is still, I would say, almost a year away before it really starts taking off

Ok look you are missing my point.  Freesync(Unlike G-Sync) costs very little to implement (They said some current monitors only need a firmware update).  There is no reason monitors have to wait for other things to get better to implement something that works NOW.



No input lag? Might finally make lcd screens an option for mame cabs.Good stuff.



Captain_Tom said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Whats the model number cause from the reviews I have seen... The Problems of TN is still there with a lot of color shift in the vertical angles as well as the colors being a saturated at the top vs the bottom. Again, my point is, first they need to get the display features right by having options such as an affordable IPS 4k display before they will widely implement things like FreeSync and G-Sync which is still, I would say, almost a year away before it really starts taking off

Ok look you are missing my point.  Freesync(Unlike G-Sync) costs very little to implement (They said some current monitors only need a firmware update).  There is no reason monitors have to wait for other things to get better to implement something that works NOW.

Well, if thats all it requires and there is no additional hardware involved then I will agree with you but from articles like this, it seems to me that it does require something cause what amd is saying is that it costs $100 less than G-Sync monitors but a monitor with G-Sync costs $200-$300+ than a similarly performing monitor without G-Sync.

In other words, if it costs $100 less than G-Sync but still costs $100-$200 more than a monitor that has about the same specs, just without FreeSync, that would mean that there is clearly some additional hardware involved which is why I am skeptical that this will be a widely adopted thing until the end of 2015-2016. If this really does become the standard right from launch, great cause then everyone is happy and I will be very excited to get one but if its not, then I do think it will take until 2016 till it really starts to take off.



                  

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Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

I honestly think that neither of these technologies will persuade most PC gamers to get one or the other cause I feel like that more people are waiting for better 4k ready monitors rather than 1080p monitors with hardware level V-sync enabled. I know that in-game V-sync as well as "adaptive" V-sync isn't always perfect but I really don't think that most people care enough to dish out a few hundred dollars just so they can have better V-sync where as they can spend a few hundred dollars and get a 4k ready monitor and just continue to use software V-sync

And I get that its also available for 4k monitors but 4k monitors are quite expensive as it is so spending more just for a better V-sync option still doesn't seem like it will take off just yet but hopefully in the future, it will


You would be wrong. Gamers in general don't care about 4K because they are just paying a whole lot for crappy monitors with brute-force AA. You are paying more for something so could get for free with AA and probobly don't have the graphical power required to run in the first place. You end up playing at a lower resolution with upscaling so everything actually looks worse. 4K is going to go the way of 3D not 1080p.

G-sync is marketed towards gamers and all gamers care about is higher refresh rates and faster response times. That is why most G-sync monitors are the the 144Hz ones. Gamers also stay away from V-sync in general. They would rather take screen-tearing.