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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware 8th of November 2014

"Xbox One uses Price cut + Exclusive Game + Exclusive bundles on Ennemy PS4
But the attack failed.

Xbox One uses PR Spin.
It's not very effective.

Ennemy PS4 does nothing.
Xbox One is confused. It hurts itself in confusion"



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DonFerrari said:
starcraft said:
Xbox One's US sales must have been other worldly...


Going by MS PR, 3x the week prior in US so 300k +-.

And going by they just saying they led for 2 weeks in USA then the gap wasn't immense and WW they were outsold.

great numbers for X1 and normal for ps4.

You are understing the PR wrong...

The last two weeks it sold 3x the previous week.

So these two weeks of November it sold combined 3x what it sold in the previous week.

Using VGC "accurate" data... it sold 150k in the last two weeks combined.

That is another spin.



lol at people saying that sony needs a price drop.
the xbox numbers are good but i can't imagine how much money they are losing



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FATALITY said:
lol at people saying that sony needs a price drop.
the xbox numbers are good but i can't imagine how much money they are losing


What's the problem with imagining? Don't you know big numbers? Or don't you just know if and how much they are losing?



super6646 said:

I don't trust anything from vgchartz, sry but every week the ps4 suddenly beats out by a little margin. When the Xbox One has a big week, it somehow loses by a tiny margin. Think vgchartz is favoring the ps4 maybe hmmmmmm......


VGC has been actually massively undertracking ps4 for a long time now



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AnthonyW86 said:

I think MCC will fail to meet expectations, moreover there are pretty serious network problems with that game right know, and online is pretty much it's selling point.


Even if that is true it would not affect a possible bump MCC would give the Xbone for its first week.  It might impact sales after the first week though if true.



X1 boost outside of the US seems too big, or PS4's is too small, one or the other. Will probably be the closest they get for a very long time.



FATALITY said:
lol at people saying that sony needs a price drop.
the xbox numbers are good but i can't imagine how much money they are losing

if anything I think the numbers indicate that sony doesn't need a price drop. Look at all MS is throwing at the XB1 just to remain competetive. And everything weare seeing of the XB1 sales right now are just "boosts". We should all wait till numbers normalize again.

I think the XB1 is in a lot more trouble than people are letting on. $350 + free game or $250 + free game + traded in PS3/360 just to get ahead is saying a lot. Especially when the competiton does absolutely nothing. So what happenes when the PS4 is at $350 too and offering a free game?



ethomaz said:
DonFerrari said:


Going by MS PR, 3x the week prior in US so 300k +-.

And going by they just saying they led for 2 weeks in USA then the gap wasn't immense and WW they were outsold.

great numbers for X1 and normal for ps4.

You are understing the PR wrong...

The last two weeks it sold 3x the previous week.

So these two weeks of November it sold combined 3x what it sold in the previous week.

Using VGC "accurate" data... it sold 150k in the last two weeks combined.

That is another spin.

How do you come to this conclusion? this is what Mehdi wrote:

"The response to this wave of blockbuster game releases and new bundles has been amazing, and sales have skyrocketed since the new price took effect on Nov. 2. Compared to the previous week [Week ending 1 Nov], Xbox One sales in the US have more than tripled, which is exciting as more and more friends will be playing together this holiday. As we head into the busy holiday season Xbox One led generation 8 console sales in the US for the past two weeks. "

Because this PR was released on 12 Nov at most he's talking 2-12 Nov sales, so 11 Days. With the biggest days of that 10 day period being 2-8 Nov. triple 91K is 273K and it did over that. If he really is talking about an 11 day period then Xb one still would have pulled over 200K for 2-8 Nov given sales will have skewed towards that time period and proportionally ther would be lower sales during 9-12 Nov. But I think he's actually talking 2-8 Nov when he's saying more than triple. But I do acknowledge there is some ambiguity as to the time period he's referencing when saying triple the week priot to the price cut. The statement does not say "in the week following the price cut sales tripled". Who can say whether that's deliberate obfuscation or careless language? With PR one can never be exactly sure.



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Intrinsic said:
FATALITY said:
lol at people saying that sony needs a price drop.
the xbox numbers are good but i can't imagine how much money they are losing

if anything I think the numbers indicate that sony doesn't need a price drop. Look at all MS is throwing at the XB1 just to remain competetive. And everything weare seeing of the XB1 sales right now are just "boosts". We should all wait till numbers normalize again.

I think the XB1 is in a lot more trouble than people are letting on. $350 + free game or $250 + free game + traded in PS3/360 just to get ahead is saying a lot. Especially when the competiton does absolutely nothing. So what happenes when the PS4 is at $350 too and offering a free game?

When PS4 is cut down to $350, Xbox will be $300 and offering free games as well. Believe that.

How do you know if these sales won't provoke a great interest in X1?