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Have you changed your mind on if Bayo 2 will flop?

I always believed it'd do amazing 81 26.13%
 
I changed my mind at some point 13 4.19%
 
I still have my doubts, but it may do alright 113 36.45%
 
Sorry, I still think it'll flop 100 32.26%
 
Total:307
fleischr on 15 October 2014
Torillian said:
I'd be much more willing to change my outlook if I saw a notable marketing campaign for Bayo 2 than seeing high reviews. Far as I've seen advertising has a much more significant effect on overall sales than any reviews can (on average). The only hope Bayo 2 could have is some amazing word of mouth but only being on WiiU limits how much benefit you can get from that.


Ads are going up on TV...



I predict NX launches in 2017 - not 2016

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Frogger on 15 October 2014

Sales wise, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that it will flop, just like hyrule warriors.



fleischr on 15 October 2014
Burek said:
It will get released, drop out of Top 15 the very next week, and within a month be forgotten by all except some WiiU fans and critics when considering GOTY.
It has a very good chance to win GOTY, which could then give it a second life. But without a solid award performance, it will flop...

With many other major releases coming soon, I wouldn't be surprised if that happened.

The intriguing question is whether or not Bayo2 will have legs.

First Bayo had no legs.

However, given that most WiiU owners don't have competing alternative titles available to them, they may still end up buying this game 1, 2, even 3 years from now.

The fact that many Ninty games have great legs I don't think has anything to do with the games themselves, but how Big N positions them to the customer base.



I predict NX launches in 2017 - not 2016

fleischr on 15 October 2014
spemanig said:
Sales wise, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that it will flop, just like hyrule warriors.


Based on it's performance on Amazon's most sold games of 2014 (not Amazon hourly!), I believe its undertracked

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2014/videogames#3



I predict NX launches in 2017 - not 2016

jonathanalis on 15 October 2014

will sell half of hyrule warriors.



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TheBlackNaruto on 15 October 2014
Dark_Feanor said:
If it´s already flopping in Japan, isn´t it?

Any way, no Meta can save the game from the terrible character design and nich nature of the genere.

Just look at God of War, MGR Revengance and DMC numbers.

It dosen´t matter if your film is the next Godfather when public want more Transformers.


Wait what? Why would you compare it to GOW? Almost every game oustide of the HD remakes have sold very well(heck Orgins is sitting at 1.97mil if I am not mistaken minus digital of course).....DMC(the new one anyway) and MGR Revengance I can understand though.

OT:

Well I still don't think it will sell enough to make up for it's budget lifetime. Doesn't change the fact that it loosk like a great game though!!!



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Torillian on 15 October 2014
fleischr said:
Torillian said:
I'd be much more willing to change my outlook if I saw a notable marketing campaign for Bayo 2 than seeing high reviews. Far as I've seen advertising has a much more significant effect on overall sales than any reviews can (on average). The only hope Bayo 2 could have is some amazing word of mouth but only being on WiiU limits how much benefit you can get from that.


Ads are going up on TV...


But how many, what time slots, what channels?  I mean having some ads is great, and will keep it from being a total unknown like Ar Nosurge, but unless it gets the kind of advertising that one of Nintendo's mainstays gets (like SSB on 3DS which I keep seeing ads for) I don't think they'll be able to propel it into non-flopitude.  



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TheBlackNaruto on 15 October 2014
fleischr said:
Burek said:
It will get released, drop out of Top 15 the very next week, and within a month be forgotten by all except some WiiU fans and critics when considering GOTY.
It has a very good chance to win GOTY, which could then give it a second life. But without a solid award performance, it will flop...

With many other major releases coming soon, I wouldn't be surprised if that happened.

The intriguing question is whether or not Bayo2 will have legs.

First Bayo had no legs.

However, given that most WiiU owners don't have competing alternative titles available to them, they may still end up buying this game 1, 2, even 3 years from now.

The fact that many Ninty games have great legs I don't think has anything to do with the games themselves, but how Big N positions them to the customer base.

But aren't the games with the "great legs" MOSTLY(not all) big Nin games? And most games like this don't really sell well on Nin systems...but I guess time will tell. Just seems like while this game looks amazing the userbase/audience on the Wii U will not do it justice.



The absence of evidence is NOT the evidence of absence...

PSN: StlUzumaki23

fatslob-:O on 15 October 2014

In all cases such as profits and volumes, Bayonetta 2 will indeed flop no matter what the reviewers say ...



Frogger on 15 October 2014
fleischr said:
spemanig said:
Sales wise, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that it will flop, just like hyrule warriors.


Based on it's performance on Amazon's most sold games of 2014 (not Amazon hourly!), I believe its undertracked

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2014/videogames#3


I don't get why people try to use Amazon sales as proof of anything. Amazon is a fraction of overall sales. It's not indicative of anything.