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Ka-pi96 said:
ohmylanta1003 said:
paypay88 said:
No its shifted to Mobile.
i can play bioshock , crazy taxi gta sanandreas and old pc games as well as indies on my Tablet and Phone
why would i need inferior hardware with games that 39$
while i can buy GTA Sanandreas for example $3 or $4

3DS hardware sucks much and iPhone and Android is much better than 3DS


Let's not get ridiculous here. You can't honestly be calling a phone a better gaming platform than the 3DS.

Woah! Someone actually thinks that? That is pretty very odd!

Sorry to surprise you but a lot people think like that.

Mobile gaming that something not seen as CORE gaming. I dont need another hardware in 2014 to play games on GO.

There are better games and ports on Mobile devices and cost like 1 or 2 $.

Believe or not.I use a lot public trains all i see people play mobile games. i never saw 3ds.

3DS is a console for Niche japan games and Nintendo ips(which arent relevant)

.You can  play FIFA,AC,GTA,COD,Asphalt,MCombat,Nova,CrazyTaxi etc etc on your device also you can play quick burst games like Snake Angry Birds Pacman sonic dash stuff like that temple run etc etc 

there is no need to inferior hardware in 2014. Sorry for truth guys. Thats real life outside of gaming forums nobody remotely cares 3DS



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Ka-pi96 said:
Wait... so that Sean Malstrom guy claims to be an old-school Nintendo fan but doesn't like the N64? The N64? Seriously?

Sean Malstrom grew up with the NES. And I think he might be in his 40s by now, if not his 30s. "New school" for his generation (as well as mine, I'm pushing 30) is synonymous with 3D graphics. The Sega Saturn, Sony Playstation and N64 ushered in a new era (3D). We grew up with 8-bit and 16-bit.

I strongly disagree with Malstrom though that the DS and Wii were necessarily old-school. The DS has lots of old-school 2D games and New Super Marios Bros was a hit. But the DS' Touch Generation series is what defined the DS. And then third-party game developers and indie developers decided to make these kind of games for smartphones and tablets and the rest is history. And the Wii was mostly centered around motion control gaming. Which didn't define the NES (unless you count Duck Hunt and the Track Pad for the Track & Field game. I had a lot of fun with those games as a kid).



paypay88 said:

Sorry to surprise you but a lot people think like that.

Mobile gaming that something not seen as CORE gaming. I dont need another hardware in 2014 to play games on GO.

There are better games and ports on Mobile devices and cost like 1 or 2 $.

Believe or not.I use a lot public trains all i see people play mobile games. i never saw 3ds.

3DS is a console for Niche japan games and Nintendo ips(which arent relevant)

.You can  play FIFA,AC,GTA,COD,Asphalt,MCombat,Nova,CrazyTaxi etc etc on your device also you can play quick burst games like Snake Angry Birds Pacman sonic dash stuff like that temple run etc etc 

there is no need to inferior hardware in 2014. Sorry for truth guys. Thats real life outside of gaming forums nobody remotely cares 3DS

So Nintendo isn't relevant anymore! Damn!
Those 45 million sold 3DS systems are really nothing, you are right!

They probably stop making systems next year I guess.



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Ka-pi96 said:

That high price would only work for Nintendo fans though, which is... their current audience, so they wouldn't actually gain anything.

Mobile/tablet games only sell as well as they do because of their low price, anything at a higher price would just flop horribly with the majority of those gamers.

The freemium model however could work... but then they risk losing Nintendo fans...


It will also work to Xbox and Playstation fans that wanted a Nintendo game but didn't like their console. If they have and Android phone, their only obstacle to purchasing the game is their confidence. But again, if the reviews are great, that shouldn't be an issue.

Mobile games fail because they don't have a brand name as high as Nintendo, Naughty Dog, and Bungie. And if Nintendo and Google can make an attractive add-on for the smartphone or tablet devices like companies do with blue tooth keyboards and smart phone covers, game controls won't be an issue.

How can freemium model lose Nintendo fans if they can still buy the whole game at 30$?



RealGamingExpert said:
paypay88 said:
Ka-pi96 said:
ohmylanta1003 said:
paypay88 said:
No its shifted to Mobile.
i can play bioshock , crazy taxi gta sanandreas and old pc games as well as indies on my Tablet and Phone
why would i need inferior hardware with games that 39$
while i can buy GTA Sanandreas for example $3 or $4

3DS hardware sucks much and iPhone and Android is much better than 3DS


Let's not get ridiculous here. You can't honestly be calling a phone a better gaming platform than the 3DS.

Woah! Someone actually thinks that? That is pretty very odd!

Sorry to surprise you but a lot people think like that.

Mobile gaming that something not seen as CORE gaming. I dont need another hardware in 2014 to play games on GO.

There are better games and ports on Mobile devices and cost like 1 or 2 $.

Believe or not.I use a lot public trains all i see people play mobile games. i never saw 3ds.

3DS is a console for Niche japan games and Nintendo ips(which arent relevant)

.You can  play FIFA,AC,GTA,COD,Asphalt,MCombat,Nova,CrazyTaxi etc etc on your device also you can play quick burst games like Snake Angry Birds Pacman sonic dash stuff like that temple run etc etc 

there is no need to inferior hardware in 2014. Sorry for truth guys. Thats real life outside of gaming forums nobody remotely cares 3DS

So Nintendo isn't relevant anymore! Damn!
Those 45 million sold 3DS systems are really nothing, you are right!

They probably stop making systems next year I guess.

if they want to remain relevant they  need to release games on multiple platforms.

Put your pokemon , Ace attorney,yosh,2DMARIOi games on iOS

Make console Zelda,Metroid,Smash,MarioK  PS3/PS4/360/XBone/PC

then they wont bomb and you will get revenue



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paypay88 said:

if they want to remain relevant they  need to release games on multiple platforms.

Put your pokemon , Ace attorney,yosh,2DMARIOi games on iOS

Make console Zelda,Metroid,Smash,MarioK  PS3/PS4/360/XBone/PC

then they wont bomb and you will get revenue

None of the games you listed bombed, nice try though.



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Only sony handheld is dying



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

i don't believe dedicated portable gaming is dying, but the market for it is shrinking, i believe there will always be a market for the people who actually want portable games with proper controls, it just might not be as big as it has been in the past.



Ka-pi96 said:

If those Xbox/PS fans weren't willing to buy at least a Nintendo handheld for their games then why would they be willing to pay full price for them on mobile phones? They would probably think the games are inferior to what they used to be (because mobile games usually are) regardless of reviews.

Also, the brand name argument isn't really true, EA, Square Enix, Capcom and probably others have released mobile games and they've had to rely on cheap or f2p games with microtransactions because the market just wouldn't support full priced games.

If they can buy the WHOLE game for that price then maybe they would be fine with it. But if that isn't the WHOLE game...


I think the retail price of 30$ is a sign that the game isn't inferior because it isn't free or cheap as other smart phone games. I'm thinking consumers will learn over time that Nintendo is going full out on smart devices.

As for third party games failing, its probably because of the controls and lack of advertisement. Touch screen only is terrible for games that require a lot of action or reflex. Again, Nintendo and Google only need to make an attractive add-on for tight controls. Even better, it will have Nintendo's name on it, making the add-on an official game controller people can trust.

If Nintendo is going all out on smart devices, they will definitely advertise their games and their high reviews on TV, online, Youtube, Twitch and etc. It will be featured prominently on the Android store as well.

Nintendo consoles used to be the box that plays Mario and the TV screen used to have high viewer ratings until the internet took over. Now smartphones and tablets and computers are the devices people are using constantly everyday and maybe the box that plays Mario.

edit: don't know I added computers there.

Also if people are wondering my stance on Nintendo going third party and etc. I still think Nintendo may be making consoles next gen. My ideas are what Nintendo will look like 10 years from.



Whatever, I'll continue to support the dedicated handhelds. Nintendo will make another one, and I'll buy it despite the wave of mobile games. Why? AAA and physical buttons