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phaedruss said:
Viper1 said:

This expansion pack for DQX is not already out.   Wii Sports Club and MHF G5 just released and we don't yet have sales data to cover them.  Hence why both are included.

Watch Dogs is still a big game.  Certainly not as big as the other console iterations but big enough to draw sales.

3 titles are listed for the first half of 2015.  Given that 2 quarters represent that period and 1 of them falls within the fiscal year, by default they have a 50/50 chance.

Of 13 games listed, only 3 are possibly off the list for next fiscal year and only 2 has launched.   That's hardly half.

It's not about one game, it's about the combination of games.


No one is going to buy a wii u for watch dogs.

It's not a very compelling combination of games that's the point. They'll sell to people who own wii u's already, hell even Super Smash Brothers might sell mostly to current owners, moreso than MK8.

So may as well just stop selling the Wii U, right?  No games are sellers and the only one that is will only sell to current owners.

 

I think we're done.



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Viper1 said:
phaedruss said:
Viper1 said:

This expansion pack for DQX is not already out.   Wii Sports Club and MHF G5 just released and we don't yet have sales data to cover them.  Hence why both are included.

Watch Dogs is still a big game.  Certainly not as big as the other console iterations but big enough to draw sales.

3 titles are listed for the first half of 2015.  Given that 2 quarters represent that period and 1 of them falls within the fiscal year, by default they have a 50/50 chance.

Of 13 games listed, only 3 are possibly off the list for next fiscal year and only 2 has launched.   That's hardly half.

It's not about one game, it's about the combination of games.


No one is going to buy a wii u for watch dogs.

It's not a very compelling combination of games that's the point. They'll sell to people who own wii u's already, hell even Super Smash Brothers might sell mostly to current owners, moreso than MK8.

So may as well just stop selling the Wii U, right?  No games are sellers and the only one that is will only sell to current owners.

 

I think we're done.

Did I say that? I'm just saying what should be rather apparent.



phaedruss said:

Did I say that? I'm just saying what should be rather apparent.


Apparent to whom?



Viper1 said:

This expansion pack for DQX is not already out.   Wii Sports Club and MHF G5 just released and we don't yet have sales data to cover them.  Hence why both are included.

Watch Dogs is still a big game.  Certainly not as big as the other console iterations but big enough to draw sales.

3 titles are listed for the first half of 2015.  Given that 2 quarters represent that period and 1 of them falls within the fiscal year, by default they have a 50/50 chance.

 

Of 13 games listed, only 3 are possibly off the list for next fiscal year and only 2 has launched.   That's hardly half.

What expansion are you talking about?  The only Dragon Quest game on Nintendo's release lineup is the all in one package that comes with the expansion released last year.  We have sales data on Wii Sports Club.  It did less than 3k first week in Japan, and is out of the top 30 (less than 2,124) on Famitsu for week 2.  We'll see if it is still on the MC top 50 when it is out.  In the UK it didn't even make the Wii U top 10.  Frontier G5 did 2.8k on the PS3 and didn't chart in the top 30 on the Wii U.  The original Frontier G on Wii U didn't chart either.

Call of Duty and Assassin's Creed are big games too, but even releasing on time did quite poorly.

The fact that there is always a chance of delays alone would tilt that 50/50 chance.  They probably won't release them at the immediate start of the year either which pushes it further.  Then there is the fact that even if it did make the quarter, a game releasing at the end of March won't do much for hardware for that fiscal year.

Of 13 games listed 3 are already out and 3 might not make the fiscal year.  That is nearly half.  And that is even letting Bayonetta 1 slide.



KLXVER said:
Dunban67 said:
KLXVER said:
If SSB4U and the Amiibos doesnt do much for the WiiU, then Ill admit to the WiiU being a failure.

You can quote me on that one.


What is your definition of "do much"?   Like mk8 SSB WILL sell some software and hardware - no one would deny that - but how much wil it need to sell? 


Around 100K weekly for the next year.

That would be a great number and surely give the Wii u breathing room to succeed if not more -  I hope SSB ( or any/all the Wii u games ) can help that happen-   Because the numbers so far for the Wii u hardware/software are bad-  and the 3ds may have already seen its peak year in 2013 so things could easily go from bad now or catastrophic later if the trajectories of the Wii u and 3ds do not improve by a large margin and or thier next consoles so not turn out to be big hits right out the gate 



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Viper1 said:
phaedruss said:
Yakuzaice said:
Viper1 said:

Hyrule Warriors
Wii Sports Club
Bayonetta
Bayonetta 2
Watch Dogs
Super Smash Bros Wii U
Captain Toad Treasure Tracker
Splatoon
Yoshi's Wooly World
Dragon Quest X (Japan)
Monster Hunter Frontier G5 (Japan)
Sonic Boom
Mario Maker

DQX and MH are already out.  Wii Sports club has been out for ages for download and the retail release seemed to have no impact anywhere.  Several of the others aren't coming till Q4 at the earliest and are listed as first half which could easily fall into next fiscal year.

Yep. Splatoon is 2015, probably summer. The only significant title there is Super smash brothers.

The only significant title last quarter was Mario Kart 8 which pushed sales to 60k.   You implied there were no games for the remainder of the fiscal year to maintain that sales trend.   Smash alone is enough and yet there are far more games that will push or maintain hardware sales from that list than we ever saw in the previous quarter.  60k should not be hard to maintain with that list.  Do you not think?

I never said the EARLY (Q1 2015) 2015 titles would add a BIG boost, I just meant they would add enough of one to add a safe zone to the total sales of Wii U. Also I was more talking about Hyrule Warriors and Bayonetta 2.



A proper bundle deal with WWHD + Hyrule Warriors wouldn't hurt pushing units, actually. But, at the end of the day, one game isn't what saves a console. Its a library of worthwhile games and choices available for and to entice video game players. As of so far, the WiiU has a very highly rated library of exclusives (the third party stuff less so, or are just late ports and as such barely count for much). The up coming titles aren't necessarily blockbusters but if their quality holds, they will give the WiiU a fatter library of quality products for people to deliberate over as they pick consoles and what not.



Well that's not good.
I expected way higher numbers for both the Wii U and the 3DS. And a loss is not good either. Both 3DS and Wii U aren't sold at a loss now and that's with Mario Kart releasing as well. Not good.



    

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2.82M for MK8. It already outsold 3DWorld + DKCTF in just one month. Amazing.



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