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Teeqoz on 29 July 2014
Giggs_11 said:

Naughty Dog is so overrated! Yeah sure their games are great, but people tend to overrate their quality, especially graphic wise. I just started playing the 1st uncharted this weekend (yeah, i have the trilogy at home and never bothered to try it before). Although the game is good, it's nowhere near the expectations I had cuz of you sony fanboys overrating everything ND does. Graphically it's a bit of a letdown to be honest.


You do realise that the first uncharted was released in 2007?



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Landguy on 29 July 2014

This is the first "gen" that I basically thought this. The overall system differences from PS360 to PS4/XB1 are very minimal. I have an XB1 and WiiU so far and I was planning on getting a PS4 next year when more games come out. But, the thing is, that I just haven't been impressed yet. I have spent plenty of time playing my brothers PS4 and have been equally Unimpressed. Not sure that I will want to get a PS4, but the games will probably suck me in. I know it won't be the graphics...



It is near the end of the end....

pokoko on 29 July 2014

I don't even know what I just read, to be honest. It just sounded like a rant without much in the way of fact. Just "this is fucking stupid" and "that is fucking stupid." The tone was really childish.

I guess the massive jump in RAM isn't very meaningful, huh? Darn.



PullusPardus on 29 July 2014
Giggs_11 said:
maverick40 said:

Nope, I wont get Uncharted 4 like graphics on PC. No studio on the planet like Naughty Dog. 

The holy grail of graphics Crytek will be finished in a few months so what will PC gamers boast with next? Skyrim mods?

Naughty Dog is so overrated! Yeah sure their games are great, but people tend to overrate their quality, especially graphic wise. I just started playing the 1st uncharted this weekend (yeah, i have the trilogy at home and never bothered to try it before). Although the game is good, it's nowhere near the expectations I had cuz of you sony fanboys overrating everything ND does. Graphically it's a bit of a letdown to be honest.

the first uncharted looked okay back then 

Uncharted 2 looked the best

Uncharted 3 looks like crap compared (it was rushed, but people don't want to admit it)

Last Of Us looks a bit better than Uncharted 2 during cutscenes but was very lacking during gameplay 

 

Yeah I agree Naughty Dog is very overrated and they use really shameful techniques to fool people (make games extremely linear, removing anti aliasing for better textures...etc) the way they handled Uncharted 3 was really really poor but people just ignored it for a while and then after the hype went down realized how rushed it was (even the story was shit), on the other hand we have Guerilla Games for example that actually do amazing things in terms of graphics with what they're limited too.

However the big difference between the two is one makes a first person shooter with the most generic characters possible, and the other makes actual memorable characters, honestly the best thing about Killzone is the lore and the villians , the main characters are just so.... generic, and the story other than the first one are so so bad.



Raziel123 on 29 July 2014

All i'm seeing here is Wii U propaganda
Saying things don't make them true you know

This whole "jump is smaller" thing is nonsense. You can't take the consoles and just place them next to current PCs. This gen the jump is bigger, you know why? Because last gen lasted too long. The consoles were last year more outdated than the other gen ever was. THAT's how you measure a generational jump.



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PullusPardus on 29 July 2014
AnthonyW86 said:


To comment on the video, let me just quote ''we did not focus on power consumption''. If they did it would show something like this:

Power consumption GTX 480 card only:                       ~270 Watts

Power consumption Playstation 4 entire system:       ~135 Watts

That means just one GTX 480 consumes twice the amount of power as an entire Playstation 4 system. In other words if you would try to use a card like the GTX 480 in a console it would fry in minutes.


you can use GTX 480m and you'll get comparably the same results and its ~100 watts

the "m" ones are "mobile" for netbooks and what not they don't have fans so they're a lot smaller, they're the same ones that are used on consoles



PullusPardus on 29 July 2014
Mr Khan said:
I'm going to have to keep an eye on this thread. The OP is tenuous enough, but it could be worthy of discussion, but keep it clean or i'll drop y'all like bags of dirt.

aw thanks... ? o_O;



Kane1389 on 29 July 2014
PullusPardus said:
AnthonyW86 said:
''they're much closer to WiiU than you think''

Stopped reading right there.


Explain how thats not true?


 

And this is just the GPU chart, not accounting the massive difference in RAM and CPU (where even PS360 have a better one than WiiU)



Intrinsic on 29 July 2014

Oh another one of these kinda threads.

Ok... I will just assume everything you just said was ur opinion. And if you really think there isn't that much of a difference between the WiiU/PS4/XB1, (which is really strange considering you seem to be fairly tech literate, which in turn now brings to question this thread) then not much can really be said to you.



Headshot on 29 July 2014
PullusPardus said:

the first uncharted looked okay back then 

Uncharted 2 looked the best

Uncharted 3 looks like crap compared (it was rushed, but people don't want to admit it)

Last Of Us looks a bit better than Uncharted 2 during cutscenes but was very lacking during gameplay 

 

Yeah I agree Naughty Dog is very overrated and they use really shameful techniques to fool people (make games extremely linear, removing anti aliasing for better textures...etc) the way they handled Uncharted 3 was really really poor but people just ignored it for a while and then after the hype went down realized how rushed it was (even the story was shit), on the other hand we have Guerilla Games for example that actually do amazing things in terms of graphics with what they're limited too.

However the big difference between the two is one makes a first person shooter with the most generic characters possible, and the other makes actual memorable characters, honestly the best thing about Killzone is the lore and the villians , the main characters are just so.... generic, and the story other than the first one are so so bad.

Uncharted 2 and TLOU really look great though and naughty dog did a great job at getting the most out of the ps3. You could argue that many developers use techniques to fool people like epic and guerilla who seemingly didn't realise there was more colours than brown and grey until gears 3 and killzone shadowfall although gears 3 and Killzone SF do look great. The question is if naughty dog can continue to set the bar in terms of graphics moving away from the complexity of developing for the ps3 which many third parties just didn't have the time or patience to master with the 360 there.