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crissindahouse said:

So many people who bought the new jersey with the 3 stars not long ago and it's already dated  

That's why I'm waiting for the new one but those fuckers won't release it until next week -.-

Such a beauty.

The XXL variant with Schürrle's custom back will cost me 95€



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NiKKoM said:
crissindahouse said:

So many people who bought the new jersey with the 3 stars not long ago and it's already dated  




Adidas will make millions because of this.. how much is a shirt? 70 euros? times.. at least 3 million?

No clue how many they will sell but I think they have to pay around 100m Euro to Fifa for this year alone as one of the main sponsors so that they can be pretty happy that an "Adidas team" won. 



Now let's let the Brazil stadiums be turned into jails!



NiKKoM said:
poklane said:

Best players based on statistics:
1. Toni Kroos (Germany) 9.79 Best Midfielder
2. Arjen Robben (Netherlands) 9.74 Best Attacker
3. Stefan De Vrij (Netherlands) 9.7 Best Defender
4. Matts Hummels (Germany) 9.66
5. Thomas Mueller (Germany) 9.63
6. Karim Benzema (France) 9.6
7. Oscar (Brazil) 9.57
8. Thiago Silva (Brazil) 9.54
9. Marcus Rojo (Argentina) 9.51
10. Ron Vlaar (Netherlands) 9.48
17. Manuel Neuer (Germany) 9.33 Best Goalkeeper

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/statistics/castrol-index/ranking.html

Clear case why Messi won..


Messi is 11th according to this and James Rodriguez, the guy everyone is saying deserves it, is 15th. Messi is first place according to WhoScored the statistics site. I agree that he's not the most deserving, but there isn't one player who's a clear winner .If Messi was not Messi and instead a young less known player people would have been immensly impressed by his performance, but he's Messi and this was not the best tournament for him that's why people strongly object to him winning.



Why were my predictions not counted towards my points? :( I had a great run at the end.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6343380



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http://imgur.com/a/9pJH5#0

Top 5 according to WhoScored.com



Talal said:
http://imgur.com/a/9pJH5#0

Top 5 according to WhoScored.com

Hmm, they seem to calculate everything "per game" and don't take the playtime into account (or not enough). 

They even rated players who played only 1 minute or less in a game and gave them a bad rating for that game because they didn't really do much in that time lol. But the game where the player played 30 seconds counts as much for the rating as the game where the player played 90 minutes. How stupid is that please?

As example Mertesacker with 6 games and an average rating of 6.91

WC 16-06-2014 Germany 4 : 0 Portugal     90' 7.11
WC 21-06-2014 Germany 2 : 2 Ghana     90' 6.78
WC 26-06-2014 USA 0 : 1 Germany     90' 7.19
WC 30-06-2014 Germany *2 : 1 Algeria     90' 7.55
WC 08-07-2014 Brazil 1 : 7 Germany     45' 6.7
WC 13-07-2014 Germany *1 : 0 Argentina     0' 6.13

His 0 minutes game against Argentina counts as much for the average rating as one of his first four games with 90 minutes each.

I wouldn't trust a site which has calculations like that.



crissindahouse said:
Talal said:
http://imgur.com/a/9pJH5#0

Top 5 according to WhoScored.com

Hmm, they seem to calculate everything "per game" and don't take into account that some players had games with substitutions. Gives player who played always 90 minutes an advantage above those who had some substitutions after maybe 80 minutes. 

You aren't automatically better if you shot 3 times on target in 90 minutes instead of another guy who shot 4.9 times on target in 80 minutes (just as example)

They even rated players who played only 1 minute in a game and gave them a bad rating for that game because they didn't really do much in that time lol. 


I haven't researched their methods, but they are highly respected as a stats website and it's used a lot in football forums and discussions. I don't doubt that their methods have flaws. The fact that all top 5 are forward players is already proof that their calculations are flawed. I just posted this to demonstrate that Messi winning this is not as outrageous as some people are making it out to be. Looking at stats, Messi has a slight advantage over other candidates. Because he wasn't as influential in the knock out stages as he was in the group stages I wouldn't have given it to him, but I'm not outraged that he won it. Again, if Messi was an unknown player people would have 0 problems with him winning it.

 

Edit: All Golden Ball candidates played 90 in every game so that flaw doesn't affect this discussion much.

Edit 2: How are you supposed to rate a player who only played a minute? I guess not rating him is the best solution, but still.



Troll_Whisperer said:

Why were my predictions not counted towards my points? :( I had a great run at the end.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6343380


Migh have missed them



 

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NiKKoM said:
Troll_Whisperer said:

Why were my predictions not counted towards my points? :( I had a great run at the end.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6343380


Migh have missed them

Thanks!

5th overall, not bad! I missed a few matches, though it wouldn't have given me victory regardless.



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