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S.T.A.G.E. on 22 May 2014
Aura7541 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Exactly. Thats one of the largest failure rates in the history of gaming. They had to beat Sony to the market because they didnt want to launch with Sony.  They knew that first impressions are everything and they won the first impression but killed it with a faulty product. I can't even begin to count the amount of people that I know that have gone through three to five xboxes. I am willing to bet that at least a quarter of Xbox sales before 2010 were attributed alone to former RROD victims who ran out of their warranty even after Microsoft initiated the three year warranty for people after 2007 . Not only that, but people paid once more to upgrade to the newer version of the slim through discounts from trading in their former Xbox fan. Nickel and diming coldnt even begin to cover it for how much they made people spend for the console alone.

Yep. Sales figures don't mean much if several people are rebuying the product. And here's an interesting tidbit. In 2011, Strategy Analytics revealed that by the end of 2010, the PS3 userbase might have surpassed the 360 userbase (43.4 million vs 42.9 million) (http://www.inquisitr.com/102342/ps3-overtakes-xbox-360/). This basically confirms that RROD really skewed the 360's sales figures and explains why we're seeing such a huge disparity in sales between the X1 and PS4.


The link didnt work, but I ageee. I do remember reading that analysts believed the PS3 would outsell the 360 by 2011 though based on the way the PS3 was intially selling. Microsoft can thank their lucky stars for those broken consoles and people who repurchased Xboxes when the look changed.



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J_Allard on 22 May 2014
Nicklesbe said:
J_Allard said:
Wow I didn't realize the US gap was that small. lol @ outselling it WW though. Not happening any time soon.

I see people talking about retailers currently selling the Xbone for $330 in this thread too... where is this?


Target and every major retailer so far that significantly dropped the price of the titans fell bundles. It's not hard to understand. You subtract the cost of the game and the year of XBL gold and the console sits at a whopping $330. That is it's current market value according to target. Yes that is how economics works before you begin to protest otherwise with unfounded claims. Even places like Newegg are taking part.

lol I was exactly right in the other thread, you're taking old sales from a couple retailers (one online only) and extrapolating that out to say "all major retailers" and even subtracting bundle components given free. Hilarious. Thanks for the big laugh, and no, thats not how economics work. 

At least there are a couple guys still keeping up that "MS sold most of their consoles to RROD people" conspiracy theory in the thread, so it wasnt the silliest thing posted here yet.



Dr.Henry_Killinger on 22 May 2014
J_Allard said:

lol I was exactly right in the other thread, you're taking old sales from a couple retailers (one online only) and extrapolating that out to say "all major retailers" and even subtracting bundle components given free. Hilarious. Thanks for the big laugh, and no, thats not how economics work. 

At least there are a couple guys still keeping up that "MS sold most of their consoles to RROD people" conspiracy theory in the thread, so it wasnt the silliest thing posted here yet.

RROD was one of Xbox's most succesful accomplishments. Irregardless of how it affected them finacially, it was a brilliant move to gauge how tollerable their fanbase is.



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rodboxxbouse on 22 May 2014

ouch http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41777/USA/ sorry again M$



J_Allard on 22 May 2014
rodboxxbouse said:
ouch http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41777/USA/ sorry again M$


Im surprised there isnt a bigger dropoff for Xbone considering its going to be $100 cheaper in a couple weeks.

Wonder what kind of sales Minecraft will have on $onys platform.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 22 May 2014
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
J_Allard said:

lol I was exactly right in the other thread, you're taking old sales from a couple retailers (one online only) and extrapolating that out to say "all major retailers" and even subtracting bundle components given free. Hilarious. Thanks for the big laugh, and no, thats not how economics work. 

At least there are a couple guys still keeping up that "MS sold most of their consoles to RROD people" conspiracy theory in the thread, so it wasnt the silliest thing posted here yet.

RROD was one of Xbox's most succesful accomplishments. Irregardless of how it affected them finacially, it was a brilliant move to gauge how tollerable their fanbase is.


Microsoft didnt even need RROD either to get people to buy new Xboxes when they previously had one. Its crazy.



Arkaign on 22 May 2014
J_Allard said:
rodboxxbouse said:
ouch http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41777/USA/ sorry again M$


Im surprised there isnt a bigger dropoff for Xbone considering its going to be $100 cheaper in a couple weeks.

Wonder what kind of sales Minecraft will have on $onys platform.


I'm sure there actually was a larger dropoff than that. Look at April NPD (which still had some residual $449 bundles and time before the $399 SKU was announced). 115/4 = 28.75k/week average. Factor in the $399 SKU causing some buyers to hold for the June deal, and the decline in availability of the $449 bundles, and you should have .. 22k/weekly?

Given that VGC has been wrong almost every single week in 2014 for XB1 sales, it's basically a guarantee to calculate any XB1 sales number for the week by .65 or less to get the real number lol. 30,115 x .65 = 19,576. Sounds about right. Wait until NPD to see if I'm correct again.

May NPD = XB1 @ 80-85k. Bank on it.



Aura7541 on 22 May 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Aura7541 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Exactly. Thats one of the largest failure rates in the history of gaming. They had to beat Sony to the market because they didnt want to launch with Sony.  They knew that first impressions are everything and they won the first impression but killed it with a faulty product. I can't even begin to count the amount of people that I know that have gone through three to five xboxes. I am willing to bet that at least a quarter of Xbox sales before 2010 were attributed alone to former RROD victims who ran out of their warranty even after Microsoft initiated the three year warranty for people after 2007 . Not only that, but people paid once more to upgrade to the newer version of the slim through discounts from trading in their former Xbox fan. Nickel and diming coldnt even begin to cover it for how much they made people spend for the console alone.

Yep. Sales figures don't mean much if several people are rebuying the product. And here's an interesting tidbit. In 2011, Strategy Analytics revealed that by the end of 2010, the PS3 userbase might have surpassed the 360 userbase (43.4 million vs 42.9 million) (http://www.inquisitr.com/102342/ps3-overtakes-xbox-360/). This basically confirms that RROD really skewed the 360's sales figures and explains why we're seeing such a huge disparity in sales between the X1 and PS4.


The link didnt work, but I ageee. I do remember reading that analysts believed the PS3 would outsell the 360 by 2011 though based on the way the PS3 was intially selling. Microsoft can thank their lucky stars for those broken consoles and people who repurchased Xboxes when the look changed.

Ah! Apologies. I shall do it right this time...

http://www.inquisitr.com/102342/ps3-overtakes-xbox-360/



larrysdirtydrawss on 22 May 2014

drill --how can you doubt the most accurate source there is(npd)? plus why would you think the xone outsold the ps4 in april,when places like amazon/best buy/Walmart/gamestop always have the ps4 well above the xone in their bestsellers section every hour on the hour without any let-up at all (in april)



TheDrill on 23 May 2014
rodboxxbouse said:
ouch http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41777/USA/ sorry again M$


Still X1 is only at 13 % less sold total consoles in the US, not substancial, it will be reversed in a few months after the price cut.