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Will Scotland be an independent country?

Yes 70 37.43%
 
Don't know 40 21.39%
 
No 75 40.11%
 
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HigHurtenflurst on 22 April 2014
poklane said:
Conegamer said:
poklane said:

I'm confused now. So it's a country, but not independent? How does that even work lol?!

Scotland and Wales are their own country but they are part of the UK, which is governed by London. So they are their own countries, but the currency is the same, laws are the same etc.

I always thought the UK was just a name for England, Wales, Scotland and Northern-Ireland, nothing more. Mind=blown, going to blame my teacher.

There are generally confusing places partially or totally independant all over the world, The UK is particularly complex thanks mostly to the British Empire... Here are just some of the complexities of The UK & Ireland:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10



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HigHurtenflurst on 22 April 2014
jigokutamago said:
If Scotland does become independent, would they change the name from the United Kingdom to the Not So United Kingdom?

Lol.

Well the official name might have to change.... Full name is "The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland"... Scotland would be taking out a decent sized chunk of Great Britain, so it might have to change to "The United Kingdom of England, Wales & Northern Ireland"



radishhead on 22 April 2014

The more Scotland talks about how they don't want to be with us, the more I feel we should just say "okay, go away then- we don't want you either"



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DareDareCaro on 22 April 2014

As a Quebec independantist, I hope they will...



Kasz216 on 22 April 2014
radishhead said:
The more Scotland talks about how they don't want to be with us, the more I feel we should just say "okay, go away then- we don't want you either"

Unless you are a  Tory pray that they stay.

Scotland right now provides 58 left leaning polticians, and 1 Conservative.

That's more leftwing voters then the entire Lib Dem contingent.


To put that in perspective... If during the 2010 election scotland was excluded that would of given the Tory's 333 Seats... aka greater then 50% before any talk of a coalition.

Unless my math is off.



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radishhead on 22 April 2014
Kasz216 said:
radishhead said:
The more Scotland talks about how they don't want to be with us, the more I feel we should just say "okay, go away then- we don't want you either"

Unless you are a  Tory pray that they stay.

Scotland right now provides 58 left leaning polticians, and 1 Conservative.

That's more leftwing voters then the entire Lib Dem contingent.


To put that in perspective... If during the 2010 election scotland was excluded that would of given the Tory's 333 Seats... aka greater then 50% before any talk of a coalition.

Unless my math is off.

Scotland only has enough politicians to decide particularly close elections however - historically most votes have been one-sided enough that Scotland's seats wouldn't make a difference one way or the other



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Kasz216 on 22 April 2014
radishhead said:
Kasz216 said:
radishhead said:
The more Scotland talks about how they don't want to be with us, the more I feel we should just say "okay, go away then- we don't want you either"

Unless you are a  Tory pray that they stay.

Scotland right now provides 58 left leaning polticians, and 1 Conservative.

That's more leftwing voters then the entire Lib Dem contingent.


To put that in perspective... If during the 2010 election scotland was excluded that would of given the Tory's 333 Seats... aka greater then 50% before any talk of a coalition.

Unless my math is off.

Scotland only has enough politicians to decide particularly close elections however - historically most votes have been one-sided enough that Scotland's seats wouldn't make a difference one way or the other

Yeah, guess i'm more used to US super rigidity.

Looking at the 2005 elections, the Torys would of only improved to around 214 Seats.

 

They went from 194 to 306, that's crazy.



badgenome on 22 April 2014

I selfishly hope so. Let's get this secessionist ball rollin'!



wangjingwanjia on 22 April 2014

Does any Scottish or British person know the reason for this? Has this been a long going debate for 300 years or did it just bloom up?

Someone said that Scotland wants to have the "oil rights", and this I have heard too. But I have also heard they want to join the Nordic council, is this true? If so, why? And do they really want to create a country by the model of Norway, with oil reserves? Anything else?

They want to keep the British money? What about the language and other things, are there any major changes that has been proposed for this?

Also, perhaps Scotland could be compared to Hong Kong, Åland, Greenland and/or Sint-Marteen. All are independent in one way but are controlled by Beijing/Helsinki/Copenhagen/Amsterdam in the end. Perhaps not the best comparison, but similar I suppose.





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Leadified on 22 April 2014
wangjingwanjia said:

They want to keep the British money? What about the language and other things, are there any major changes that has been proposed for this?


They speak English in Scotland so I assume they would continue to do so if it does become independent.