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what was more influential?

Mario 64 206 60.95%
 
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Kasz216 on 10 March 2014
A_C_E said:
Kasz216 said:
A_C_E said:

GTA 3 had the bigger impact. Mario 64 showed everyone how to do 3D gaming correctly but we're talking about influence, not who's is better and who's is worse. Open world games are MUCH more popular and have only gotten bigger and bigger.  GTA 5 just released last year to record-breaking sales smashing expectations. Mario 64 sold 11.89 million units and not many, if any, 3D platformers have passed the success seen by Mario 64. I just don't see the comparison, I'm sorry. Not to take anything away from Mario 64 considering it was the game that did everything right but I don't see the influence when 3D platformers are hardly ever released compared to open world games like ES, Fallout, Assassins Creed and the likes.

I know there were many other factors at play during the PS2 days but for anyone who wasn't gaming yet at that time it was GTA 3 that helped PS2 absolutely dominate that generation. That is the influence that GTA 3 had. The PS2 was the console to own simply because GTA 3 was on it. Not only do sales reflect that but so do the amount of open world games that were released shortly after and are still being released plentiful to this very day.

Er, I feel like you don't know what influence means.

Those open world games are by and large 3D right?

Including GTA3....

right?

Most every game GTA influenced...

Mario 64 has influenced... plus pretty much every 3D game that exists.  Or at least most of the good ones.

Pretty much any 3D game that isn't fixed camera.

I don't know what influence is? Mario 64 was a 3D Platformer that released in 1996, 5 years before GTA3, yet it wasn't until GTA 3 released that open world games caught on like a plague. That's the difference between Mario 64 and GTA 3, GTA 3 influenced open world games and the proof is in the timeline.

Don't try to make an point so vague next time, I mean you just suggested that Mario 64 influenced all 3D games because it came out first...I'm sure you can do better than that. Its pretty common knowledge that the Arkham series, Assassins Creed series, Saints Row series, Elder Scrolls series, Fallout series would not exist if it wasn't for GTA 3.

Edit - And Mario 64 was far from the first game to use an un-fixed camera, come on...

It'd not just me who suggests that... but basically,  everyone including game designers.

There was already a quote in the thread.

"In an interview with The New York Times, Rockstar Games head writer and VP of creativity Dan Houser, when asked about influence from other games stated, "Anyone who makes 3D games who says they've not borrowed something from Mario or [The Legend of Zelda] [on the Nintendo 64] is lying."

 

Mario 64 created a LOT of basic shit.

For example the Free Camera system.

and also, the most effective way to control said free camera.

 

If GTA is Jimmy Hendrix, then Mario 64 is Les Paul.

GTA may of taught people to play...

But Mario created the tools everyone uses to play.

Without Jimi Hendrix, a style of guitar playing wouldn't be the same.

Without Les Paul?  Guitar playing in general wouldn't be the same.

 



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bananaking21 on 10 March 2014
dyremose said:
Crash bandicoot. Mario transformed platformers into what they are today, but crash bandicoot perfected it.


im sorry, but Mario 64 was a MUCH better game that Crash Bandicoot, and that says a lot, because Crash was an AWESOME game, i mean fucking amazing. 



HoloDust on 10 March 2014
A_C_E said:

Its pretty common knowledge that the Arkham series, Assassins Creed series, Saints Row series, Elder Scrolls series, Fallout series would not exist if it wasn't for GTA 3.


The Elder Scrolls: Arena was launched in 1994, Fallout 1 was launched in 1997. Both are completely different type of open world games than GTA3 which was launched in 2001.

OT: both are influentual games, though I would give the edge to SM64. Lot of people forget that there was another 3D platforming game released that very same year that influenced lot of genres quite a bit - Tomb Raider 1.



DolPhanTendo on 10 March 2014

Ummm Legend of Zelda: Ocrania of Time was the most influential game and revolutionized console gaming. Dont know why you would nt have that up there.