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Nintendo does not need a graphical successor to the U.

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To all the Nintendo fans out there, welcome to a doom-free thread, a haven from all the muck and mire you will find on the interchatz.

My topic today is simple. I was in bed thinking "Super Mario 3D World looked incredible, X and Zelda will look amazing". With Nintendo's cartoon and less realistic style of making games, they really do not need a graphical successor to the Wii U.

So, the successor to the WiiU will be VERY likely a hybrid between the portable and home consoles, unifying both software bases so Nintendo can at last secure the success of its consoles ALL BY ITSELF, without requiring a graphical upgrade usually expected for its home console, but only a graphical upgrade for its portable console, as well as a blazing-fast OS. In the meantime, the U can go on for many years without Nintendo having to worry about a new hardware transition. They just need to make games and rake in the money.

Lastly, there is virtually no reason to kill off the WiiU, since it's the end of the road. After that comes multi-platform development, which is a no-brainer to chase 3rd parties off their competitors' platforms.

 

Thank you for listening.



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I wonder if Nintendo (and their share holders) agrees with you.



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I would much prefer if Nintendo had a home console and a handheld instead of just a handheld cause I always find that when playing on a handheld, the layout has to be adjusted in a way to have portability a higher priority than ergonomics when it comes to the feel of the controller vs home consoles have a higher priority for ergonomics than portability...

So in other words, I feel that controllers for wiiU/ps4/x1 > 3ds/vita (well no shit right?) but if what Nintendo's next console is a full blown tablet, they will have to sacrifice in one or the other or else it won't be practical.. and for games like Smash Bros, Metroid, Zelda, Beyonatta and others where precision is key, the ergonomics is very important... Hopefully you guys are trying to understand what I am trying to say lol

As for graphics, mehh, I think technology is growning at such a rapid rate that it should be cheap enough anyway to update the graphics at a low cost... The only reason the wiiU costs so much is cause of the gamepad, if it didn't have the gamepad, it might cost less than $250



       

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I would much prefer if Nintendo had a home console and a handheld instead of just a handheld cause I always find that when playing on a handheld, the layout has to be adjusted in a way to have portability a higher priority than ergonomics when it comes to the feel of the controller vs home consoles have a higher priority for ergonomics than portability...

So in other words, I feel that controllers for wiiU/ps4/x1 > 3ds/vita (well no shit right?) but if what Nintendo's next console is a full blown tablet, they will have to sacrifice in one or the other or else it won't be practical.. and for games like Smash Bros, Metroid, Zelda, Beyonatta and others where precision is key, the ergonomics is very important... Hopefully you guys are trying to understand what I am trying to say lol

Of all the companies out there making hardware, don't you think nintendo could pull it off? Do you remember how amazing the Wii remote was. You could play it in two directions, it had an extension port, it was litterally a miracle piece of HW. I think Nintendo needs to work its magic to create a portable device which is uber-light and could be embedded in a controller for use at home.

It really shouldn't be soo far-fetched since airplay, surface and other similar technologies are already so close, not to mention Samsung's work on paper-like screens which unfold from a wallet-sized container.



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padib said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
I would much prefer if Nintendo had a home console and a handheld instead of just a handheld cause I always find that when playing on a handheld, the layout has to be adjusted in a way to have portability a higher priority than ergonomics when it comes to the feel of the controller vs home consoles have a higher priority for ergonomics than portability...

So in other words, I feel that controllers for wiiU/ps4/x1 > 3ds/vita (well no shit right?) but if what Nintendo's next console is a full blown tablet, they will have to sacrifice in one or the other or else it won't be practical.. and for games like Smash Bros, Metroid, Zelda, Beyonatta and others where precision is key, the ergonomics is very important... Hopefully you guys are trying to understand what I am trying to say lol

Of all the companies out there making hardware, don't you think nintendo could pull it off? Do you remember how amazing the Wii remote was. You could play it in two directions, it had an extension port, it was litterally a miracle piece of HW. I think Nintendo needs to work its magic to create a portable device which is uber-light and could be embedded in a controller for use at home.

It really shouldn't be soo far-fetched since airplay, surface and other similar technologies are already so close, not to mention Samsung's work on paper-like screens which unfold from a wallet-sized container.

Yea but how do you make triggers portable? The reason that the vita and 3ds and any tablet thats ment to go out of your house doesn't have triggers is that it gets in the way of portability... They need some sort of magical fairy dust to make that happen and they can't afford not to if they are targetting the home console market as well



       

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Well any console built in 2014 or later ought to be more powerful than the Wii U just for being newer.

But I don't feel the need for more power than the U offers, and I hope Nintendo aims for a low price point in the future rather than trying to keep up with PCs.

Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
padib said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
I would much prefer if Nintendo had a home console and a handheld instead of just a handheld cause I always find that when playing on a handheld, the layout has to be adjusted in a way to have portability a higher priority than ergonomics when it comes to the feel of the controller vs home consoles have a higher priority for ergonomics than portability...

So in other words, I feel that controllers for wiiU/ps4/x1 > 3ds/vita (well no shit right?) but if what Nintendo's next console is a full blown tablet, they will have to sacrifice in one or the other or else it won't be practical.. and for games like Smash Bros, Metroid, Zelda, Beyonatta and others where precision is key, the ergonomics is very important... Hopefully you guys are trying to understand what I am trying to say lol

Of all the companies out there making hardware, don't you think nintendo could pull it off? Do you remember how amazing the Wii remote was. You could play it in two directions, it had an extension port, it was litterally a miracle piece of HW. I think Nintendo needs to work its magic to create a portable device which is uber-light and could be embedded in a controller for use at home.

It really shouldn't be soo far-fetched since airplay, surface and other similar technologies are already so close, not to mention Samsung's work on paper-like screens which unfold from a wallet-sized container.

Yea but how do you make triggers portable? The reason that the vita and 3ds and any tablet thats ment to go out of your house doesn't have triggers is that it gets in the way of portability... They need some sort of magical fairy dust to make that happen and they can't afford not to if they are targetting the home console market as well

Think of the R&D that goes into a handheld. Think money.

Now think of the R&D that goes into a home console. Again, $$$.

Now think about what can happen when you combine those two $$$ into 1 device.

Then think about how loss-leading would make sense with twice the software output.

 

Triggers, they become a non-issue with that in mind. They can find a way to make triggers happen.

As an example, they can make their games playable in any way desired (kind of like how you can play SM3DW with any controller style you like). You can play a game in tablet form, it won't be super ergonomic. You can get an accessory to encase the console, which has some kind of foldable setup so it fits nicely in your pocket, it includes triggers. The large screen gets split in two for portable use, but when you're at home the whole screen is used, and the TV embodies the 2nd screen. With proliferation of screens in the short future, a second screen with stand (like the ipad cover) could be made available. This is what I see happening. Some kind of transformer handheld that has awesome enough graphics to be used as a home console.

Have you seen Infinity Blade III for the iPhone 5s?



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padib said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Yea but how do you make triggers portable? The reason that the vita and 3ds and any tablet thats ment to go out of your house doesn't have triggers is that it gets in the way of portability... They need some sort of magical fairy dust to make that happen and they can't afford not to if they are targetting the home console market as well

Think of the R&D that goes into a handheld. Think money.

Now think of the R&D that goes into a home console. Again, $$$.

Now think about what can happen when you combine those two $$$ into 1 device.

Then think about how loss-leading would make sense with twice the software output.

 

Triggers, they become a non-issue with that in mind. They can find a way to make triggers happen.

As an example, they can make their games playable in any way desired (kind of like how you can play SM3DW with any controller style you like). You can play a game in tablet form, it won't be super ergonomic. You can get an accessory to encase the console, which has some kind of foldable setup so it fits nicely in your pocket, it includes triggers. The large screen gets split in two for portable use, but when you're at home the whole screen is used, and the TV embodies the 2nd screen. With proliferation of screens in the short future, a second screen with stand (like the ipad cover) could be made available. This is what I see happening. Some kind of transformer handheld that has awesome enough graphics to be used as a home console.

Have you seen Infinity Blade III for the iPhone 5s?

Yea, but the issue with combining two into one is also that if that one device fails, you have no other method of income... This is specially true for Nintendo... Sony has mobile and TV and etc for income, MS has Windows and royalties for Income but if Nintendo combines handheld and home console into one and no one likes it... They are literily dead in the water...

At least for the gamecube and wiiU, they have the ds and 3ds for some source of income to keep the company going but with a combined console, it has a higher chance of success but also a big risk of failure and I think that the consequences of failure would far outway the advantages of success... Specially since after this genenation, Nintendo will have virtually no competition in the handheld space... And if their next console is like another wii level of success, then they will have so much money that it will be crazy but if their home console fails, at least their handheld can keep them alive



       

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