Seece said:
For it to continue its current trajectory. |
I have no clue what you're talking about, it's tracking 6M+ above PSP at the moment.
Predictions for LT console sales:
PS4: 120M
XB1: 70M
WiiU: 14M
3DS: 60M
Vita: 13M
Which handheld will end up with more sales (lifetime)? | |||
PSP | 69 | 10.27% | |
3DS | 522 | 77.68% | |
About even | 81 | 12.05% | |
Total: | 672 |
Seece said:
For it to continue its current trajectory. |
I have no clue what you're talking about, it's tracking 6M+ above PSP at the moment.
Predictions for LT console sales:
PS4: 120M
XB1: 70M
WiiU: 14M
3DS: 60M
Vita: 13M
Turkish said:
You mean 3 year, 3DS is out since early 2011. 3DS wont have the longevity of the DS. Nintendo consoles dont have legs save for the DS which is an anomaly for nintendo. It will go down fast. Another 2 good years max, with total of 25 million sales. And 1 or 2 year more on the market, barely selling another 5-10 million. Its gonna be close to PSP at its best. |
Off topic, we talk about 3ds vs psp not 3ds vs ds.
I don't know why you think 3ds will be on market less then ds.
PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m
Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m
benji232 said:
I have no clue what you're talking about, it's tracking 6M+ above PSP at the moment. |
Its own trajectory, not vs PSP. I meant being down YOY.
Seece said:
It'll be adjusted.
Sell through is around 6.7m (actually might be less than that) for Q4, so shipments should be around 7.5m. |
2 words: Over shipping.
You can't combine 1Q of 1 FY with 3Q of another FY due to various factors. I can guarantee you that FY14 shipment figures will be higher then FY13 shipment figures. Which is what you should compare.
If you're comparing sell-through data, then use a normal year. If your comparing shipment data, then use fiscal years.
Predictions for LT console sales:
PS4: 120M
XB1: 70M
WiiU: 14M
3DS: 60M
Vita: 13M
benji232 said:
2 words: Over shipping. You can't combine 1Q of 1 FY with 3Q of another FY due to various factors. I can guarantee you that FY14 shipment figures will be higher then FY13 shipment figures. Which is what you should compare. If you're comparing sell-through data, then use a normal year. If your comparing shipment data, then use fiscal years. |
I'm using what they shipped IN the year. Stock doesn't time travel you know? Fact is if they overshipped last holiday, that would only have a knock on effect in Q1, you can't say it's up despite Q2/Q3 and Q4 being down too.
You can guarantee FY14 will be above FY13? How?
pezus said:
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Fair enough, but I do believe that NA and Europe shipment figures in FY 2015 will be up for the 3ds while being down in Japan. I was thinking something like 4.5-5m for Europe, 4.5-4.8m for America and 4m for Japan plus the "others" territory putting it around 14-15m. A lot of this "3ds has peaked" buzz really is all coming from the fact that Japan was down YoY. It's already up 30k in Europe and America for the week ending Jan. 4th over 2013 week ending Jan. 5th.
Predictions for LT console sales:
PS4: 120M
XB1: 70M
WiiU: 14M
3DS: 60M
Vita: 13M
benji232 said:
Fair enough, but I do believe that NA and Europe shipment figures in FY 2015 will be up for the 3ds while being down in Japan. I was thinking something like 4.5-5m for Europe, 4.5-4.8m for America and 4m for Japan plus the "others" territory putting it around 14-15m. A lot of this "3ds has peaked" buzz really is all coming from the fact that Japan was down YoY. It's already up 30k in Europe and America for the week ending Jan. 4th over 2013 week ending Jan. 5th. |
3DS was up YOY in US last year by about 100k. 3DS we don't know yet. You're right though, Japan caused a big downturn.
Seece said:
I'm using what they shipped IN the year. Stock doesn't time travel you know? Fact is if they overshipped last holiday, that would only have a knock on effect in Q1, you can't say it's up despite Q2/Q3 and Q4 being down too. |
Q1 down due to over shipping in Q4 2012. Q2 due to the decline in Japan, not America or Europe. Q3 was down for obvious reasons. 3DS XL got launched in August which boosted sales tremendously and led to higher then usual sales. With that being said, let's say we use your way of calculating how much 3ds sold in a year. That would put it down 2.03M for the year so far. I can easily see a 2m+ increase YoY in Q4 of 2013 considering that October was one of it's biggest months ever in terms of sales (launch of 2DS+Pokemon) and November being up a lot YoY in the US (200K+). It definetly wouldn't surprise me to see shipments of 9-10M for Q4 2013. But that's just my take on things, I guess we'll find out in 18 days who's right :).
Predictions for LT console sales:
PS4: 120M
XB1: 70M
WiiU: 14M
3DS: 60M
Vita: 13M
benji232 said:
Q1 down due to over shipping in Q4 2012. Q2 due to the decline in Japan, not America or Europe. Q3 was down for obvious reasons. 3DS XL got launched in August which boosted sales tremendously and led to higher then usual sales. With that being said, let's say we use your way of calculating how much 3ds sold in a year. That would put it down 2.03M for the year so far. I can easily see a 2m+ increase YoY in Q4 of 2013 considering that October was one of it's biggest months ever in terms of sales (launch of 2DS+Pokemon) and November being up a lot YoY in the US (200K+). It definetly wouldn't surprise me to see shipments of 9-10M for Q4 2013. But that's just my take on things, I guess we'll find out in 18 days who's right :). |
lol what?! We already know sell through is around 6.5m, how do you think Nintendo can convice retailers to hang onto an extra 3.5m 3DS's??
Facts are facts dude. It sold 1.7m in Japan this Q, 2.2m in US, and probably the same in Europe. For 9 - 10m you're talking 3.3m in each region .....
I am pretty sure the 3DS is going to outsell the PSP. You can quote me on that in a couple of years if you want but I am 100% sure it will outsell it.
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