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Forums - Sales Discussion - Sony: 4.2M, VGChartz: 4.1M

FlamingWeazel said:


The shipped sold debate was not a vgchatz phenominom, it was started by xbox fans around then LOL. Also you can view a site without joining, amazing I know.


Given your apparent conspiracy theory towards shhipping vs sold numbers, I find it highly doubtful that you'd be viewing the site at that time while resisting your urge to sign up and spew the bile. Your attempted alibi doesn't make an ounce of sense, given your already displayed attitude towards it.

As for the sales themselves, you'll find that VGC's numbers were a lot closer to NPD's figures than the ones that Sony posted in their financial reviews (you know, the ones that people would cite here as the reason why VGC's numbers were wrong?)

Nice try, though....



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fordy said:
FlamingWeazel said:


The shipped sold debate was not a vgchatz phenominom, it was started by xbox fans around then LOL. Also you can view a site without joining, amazing I know.


Given your apparent conspiracy theory towards shhipping vs sold numbers, I find it highly doubtful that you'd be viewing the site at that time while resisting your urge to sign up and spew the bile. Your attempted alibi doesn't make an ounce of sense, given your already displayed attitude towards it.

As for the sales themselves, you'll find that VGC's numbers were a lot closer to NPD's figures than the ones that Sony posted in their financial reviews (you know, the ones that people would cite here as the reason why VGC's numbers were wrong?)

Nice try, though....

??? Sure whatever you say champ, cute. VG charts closer then sonys own???? HAHAHA, nice try.



Figgycal said:
FlamingWeazel said:
fordy said:
Don't Sony still only post shipped numbers and not actual retail sold numbers?


LOL not this again. Both ms, Nintendo and Sony use shipped as that is SOLD for them but in this case with ps4 selling out it is Sold through. Sony is NOT the only one who uses shipped normally.

Sony clarified after the conference that it was sold through.


Thats all I wanted to know, thank you. 

Yes people, it IS possible for companies to change in the span of 7 years. Don't take offense to it.



fordy said:

Given your apparent conspiracy theory towards shhipping vs sold numbers, I find it highly doubtful that you'd be viewing the site at that time while resisting your urge to sign up and spew the bile. Your attempted alibi doesn't make an ounce of sense, given your already displayed attitude towards it.

As for the sales themselves, you'll find that VGC's numbers were a lot closer to NPD's figures than the ones that Sony posted in their financial reviews (you know, the ones that people would cite here as the reason why VGC's numbers were wrong?)

Nice try, though....

You are the one who originally brought shipped/sold conspiracies into this thread.  Also seems weird to say it was a source of confusion for others back in 2007 when it seems to be a source of confusion for yourself today.

Sony hasn't broken down their shipments by region since the PS3 was released, so I'm not sure how you could quantify VGC being closer to shipments than NPD in the US



FlamingWeazel said:
fordy said:
FlamingWeazel said:


The shipped sold debate was not a vgchatz phenominom, it was started by xbox fans around then LOL. Also you can view a site without joining, amazing I know.


Given your apparent conspiracy theory towards shhipping vs sold numbers, I find it highly doubtful that you'd be viewing the site at that time while resisting your urge to sign up and spew the bile. Your attempted alibi doesn't make an ounce of sense, given your already displayed attitude towards it.

As for the sales themselves, you'll find that VGC's numbers were a lot closer to NPD's figures than the ones that Sony posted in their financial reviews (you know, the ones that people would cite here as the reason why VGC's numbers were wrong?)

Nice try, though....

??? Sure whatever you say champ, cute. VG charts closer then sonys own???? HAHAHA, nice try.

When Sony was posting shipped sales as opposed to customer sold figures in 2007?

YES! Of course it was.

Of course, had you been AROUND here in 2007, you'd know about it, and not come here in 2014 acting like a complete jackass to somebody ASKING if Sony still do what they did in 2007.

Get it, yet?



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JoeTheBro said:
Nem said:
JoeTheBro said:
Nem said:
VGChartz values are from the 28th. Sony's are from the 31st.

Try to notice the details next time.


lol quality post

 


I confused with Microsoft it seems. My apologies existenz2. Not to Joe the bro who thinks the internet has winners. You were late. The poster above beat you to it.

Still, i dont know how VGC does the corrections. The site hasnt been updated since the values were published, wich was before the Sony announcement.

What? I made a bet with bananaking. Yes the internet has winners.

Do you still believe the Xbox One will sell less than 200k worldwide January?



Yakuzaice said:
fordy said:

Given your apparent conspiracy theory towards shhipping vs sold numbers, I find it highly doubtful that you'd be viewing the site at that time while resisting your urge to sign up and spew the bile. Your attempted alibi doesn't make an ounce of sense, given your already displayed attitude towards it.

As for the sales themselves, you'll find that VGC's numbers were a lot closer to NPD's figures than the ones that Sony posted in their financial reviews (you know, the ones that people would cite here as the reason why VGC's numbers were wrong?)

Nice try, though....

You are the one who originally brought shipped/sold conspiracies into this thread.  Also seems weird to say it was a source of confusion for others back in 2007 when it seems to be a source of confusion for yourself today.

Sony hasn't broken down their shipments by region since the PS3 was released, so I'm not sure how you could quantify VGC being closer to shipments than NPD in the US

Except NPD is retail data (ie. ACTUAL sold consoles), VGChartz is an estimate of retail data, and Sony's original figures were shipped.

VGC was never about the shipped figures. It was about the retail sales figures. That's the point...



fordy said:

Except NPD is retail data (ie. ACTUAL sold consoles), VGChartz is an estimate of retail data, and Sony's original figures were shipped.

VGC was never about the shipped figures. It was about the retail sales figures. That's the point...

Yes I know.  When Sony's financial shipments switched from production shipments to retail shipments they stopped breaking it down by region.  Even when they were releasing production shipments it was North America not US.  So VGC being closer to NPD than shipments or production shipments to a different set of locations isn't really relevant.



KHlover said:
I'm actually impressed that VGChartz estimate is only 100k "off". That's extremely good.


The original Vgchartz "estimate" was 3.9 million. The 4.1 million we see now was a readjustment of the numbers following Sony's announcement of the updated sell-through figures.

 



 

 

Yakuzaice said:
fordy said:

Except NPD is retail data (ie. ACTUAL sold consoles), VGChartz is an estimate of retail data, and Sony's original figures were shipped.

VGC was never about the shipped figures. It was about the retail sales figures. That's the point...

Yes I know.  When Sony's financial shipments switched from production shipments to retail shipments they stopped breaking it down by region.  Even when they were releasing production shipments it was North America not US.  So VGC being closer to NPD than shipments or production shipments to a different set of locations isn't really relevant.


Other than the fact that shipments shouldn't be taken as gospel in regards to retail sales, like many were doing in 2007. Hence my original question.

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