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Augluae said:
DerpSandwich said:
Didn't read. Anyone who says it's a failure after one year is an idiot.

Anyone who thinks it's not probably has zero knowledge or experience of either economic, commerce, consumerism, marketing, or simply the video game market

That's funny, I'd say the exact same thing about people who think it is.

Don't get me wrong, it might fail.  But there's no way to know that right now.



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this is just common sense
Nintendo makes more money out of HW and exclusive SW than what they would at cheap cash ins on mobile
Nintendo charges 7$ for SNES games on VC for the love of god!
Nobody would pay that on mobile



Decade old technology? I guess you could say that, but my understanding is that it's been pretty heavily modified as far as the CPU/GPU are concerned. If they had released the Wii U in 2003, heads would have exploded. The HDMI cable would have been next to useless too.



Wii U is the new Dreamcast.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

Locknuts said:
Decade old technology? I guess you could say that, but my understanding is that it's been pretty heavily modified as far as the CPU/GPU are concerned. If they had released the Wii U in 2003, heads would have exploded. The HDMI cable would have been next to useless too.

Agreed.  Probably the biggest folly of the entire article IMO.



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Locknuts said:
Decade old technology? I guess you could say that, but my understanding is that it's been pretty heavily modified as far as the CPU/GPU are concerned. If they had released the Wii U in 2003, heads would have exploded. The HDMI cable would have been next to useless too.


actually, the WiiU chipset is a great piece, it draws so little energy in a tight package, and outperforms 360 and PS3 while having a second screen which is something, WiiU is great chipset...

its just not what people care about lol



Augluae said:


And the ONLY thing I hope for, is that the Wii U console cycle won't last long so that Nintendo release a true new and powerful console in 2/3 years.


Why do people say this? What does Nintendo gain by releasing a PS4/Xbox clone in 2015?

If Nintendo were to release a console on par or slightly more powerful than PS4 in 2015 that wouldnt help them in any way and would likely hurt them. Basically any Wii U game not scheduled for 2014 would have to switch development to the new console immediately unless u want another huge first party game drought, meaning that Wii U would still get DKC/Mario Kart/Smash Bros and the smaller titles like Yoshi/Bayonetta/X/Hyrule Warriors but that would be the end of it. Zelda U isnt likely coming until 2015 anyway so I guess they could pull a TP and make it on current and next gen.

Lets go ahead and say Wii U sells about 12-15m by the time this new console is announced, will they be thrilled to hear that the console they spent $300 or so dollars on is getting support cut off and they only had 1.5 years of steady support to begin with? I doubt it. Also how much will this console cost and what will it have to differentiate it from PS4/Xbox? if its on par or more powerful than PS4 it will probably still cost $300-400 at launch. And its very possible that the install base of PS4+Xbox is around 50m by the end of 2015 and will already have the mainstream/hardcore crowd that plays COD/GTA/Battlefield/Assassins Creed/Madden/FIFA and whatever other big third party titles are out then.

So basically Nintendo pisses off current and future Wii U owners while making a console catered to people that just bought a console in the past 1-2 years that already caters to them. Since u claim to be sometime of analyst u should realize that this isnt a great plan. The best option for Nintendo is to try getting manufacturing costs down as much as possible so Wii U is sold at a profit and to keep supporting it with a consistant and quality release schedule. Its likely Wii U will only sell GC/N64 numbers but if they make a profit and sell a bunch of first party software then that is much better what u propose.



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Augluae said:

Anyone who thinks it's not probably has zero knowledge or experience of either economic, commerce, consumerism, marketing, or simply the video game market


That was a decent attempt at trying to sound terribly intellectual, but if consoles are being judged on their first year sales alone, then the PS3 was a "failure" as well. Nice try, but you lose. Good day sir.



Replies prove one thing: Nintendo fanboys are completely naive (that's a nice word to say something worse...) and are the ones who will ruin Nintendo. It's a shame.



Wii U failing? Where?