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A203D on 15 December 2013

Don't think Bayonetta will get good sales sadly. Will it get a sequel? Maybe if Nintendo fund it again. Platinum Games have said they will be making games for PS4 at some point anyway, so if its not Bayonetta, they should make profit from games they develop on other consoles.



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zippy on 15 December 2013

Dont forget the install base is slowly growing and will continue to do so. Hopefully the games in question will sell better because by the time they are released there will be quite a few more Wii U owners. Maybe games like W101 and Zombi U might leg out ok sales in the end.



tiffac on 15 December 2013

I believe the Wii U will be the secondary console that people will buy after getting their PS4 or X1, maybe not now but when the price goes down further, I am optimistic they will. So these games may not wow us with their initial sales but will have good legs in the end



Barozi on 15 December 2013
superhippy420 said:
Barozi said:
ah c'mon know everybody is talking about 2m sales for X.

Monster Hunter Tri for Wii barely did that and it has a huge brand name (more so in Japan but still) and sold very well there (1.05m) on a much much much bigger userbase.

Xenoblade did 160k in Japan and did worse in Europe, so please explain how X is supposed to come even close to 2m sales.


Like I said the 1st did 900k and the game was selling for over 100 bucks on ebay before gamestop "magically found copies", and this was towards the very end of the Wii's lifecycle.    Games always sell better early in the lifecycle, and the 9.8 - 10 scores it will most likely get alone will get the gaming community talking, just like it did when Xenoblade came out.  2 m. may be a little high, but I really don't think its that crazy when you consider that it will be on the shelf for 3 - 4 years as well.

There is still a difference of almost 200k between Xenoblade and Monster Hunter Tri in the US, so limited or not, 200k is a huge amount for such a game in one region. If they shipped 200k more there would be no guarantee that all of them sold through.

Now you say that games sell better early in the lifecycle, which I agree with, but games do also better on a higher userbase (recent Mario game being a great example here), so that pretty much evens out.



Kasz216 on 15 December 2013
Mummelmann said:
Bayonetta 2 will probably sell anywhere between 200-400k, X is harder to predict, it appears to have potential for this userbase, I think it could do quite well, or it could the Final Fantasy spin-off of the Wii U era (The Wii's FF games didn't do very well), really hard to say.

As for the usual suspects (Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong) there is no doubt that they will sell well, betting against that is plain stupid.


Would be my guess... and honestly, those are good sales considering the userbase

 

I mean shit.  Vita is a couple million ahead and even with digital sales it doesn't have a 2 million seller.  Without it only has like what, 1-2 million sellers?

 

People need to ratchet down the expectations.



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Ninjahound101 on 15 December 2013
fauzman said:
Ninjahound101 said:
fauzman said:
I find it hard to believe that both these games will make a profit . Bayonetta didnt do well enough to justify a sequel on the ps3/x360. While xenoblade did ok its sales still werent that great. Taking both these to a console with much fewer sales, and I dont really see either doing great. At best I reckon both will be even or only slightly profitable. Still if the nintendo crowd really goes for these games, and we see a huge boost in wii u numbers for the rest of the holiday period (its doing well right now), then these could surprise me.


Xenoblade did fantastic especially for an expirement, it sold out of its stock really quickly and almost hit 1 million units sold

Anything less than 1M is good if the game didnt cost a lot to make, but is still not great. While it may have made a profit I doubt it was a huge one. And considering xeno released on a console with an install base of >70M while X will release on a console with an install base of 6M (or something like this) I dont think it will get the same sort of sales.  

Xenoblade was an expirement it probably needed 250K to make a profit, it did FANTASTIC

WiiU will be well over 8 million when X releases and X will enjoy stronger legs and the status of SYSTEM SELLER



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Hurr1cane on 15 December 2013

So how many copies does X and Bayo 2 need to sell to not flop?



Barozi on 15 December 2013
Hurr1cane said:
So how many copies does X and Bayo 2 need to sell to not flop?

a million each surely.
at full price that would be $35m each for Nintendo, but that's not very realistic as the price will certainly drop before they (if ever) hit a million.
$20m budget plus marketing costs seem reasonable.



gigantor21 on 15 December 2013
Kasz216 said:
Mummelmann said:
Bayonetta 2 will probably sell anywhere between 200-400k, X is harder to predict, it appears to have potential for this userbase, I think it could do quite well, or it could the Final Fantasy spin-off of the Wii U era (The Wii's FF games didn't do very well), really hard to say.

As for the usual suspects (Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong) there is no doubt that they will sell well, betting against that is plain stupid.


Would be my guess... and honestly, those are good sales considering the userbase

 

I mean shit.  Vita is a couple million ahead and even with digital sales it doesn't have a 2 million seller.  Without it only has like what, 1-2 million sellers?

 

People need to ratchet down the expectations.

It doesn't have ANY million sellers on the Chartz, and I can't remember Sony or any third parties saying that it does either. This despite it having a bigger install base and a whole extra year on the market. Even if you're generous about the whole "60% digital" argument and give it to every game, that would bump up the million seller count to...what? 3 or 4, tops?

Both the Vita and the WiiU are scraping the bottom of the barrel when it comes to market performance. As an owner of the former, it hurts me, as I know there's no incentive for third parties to do anything with it and Sony has shown little interest in picking up the slack.



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cusman on 15 December 2013
EricFabian said:
Bayo 2 is a 3rd party game, but anyway I think Bayo2 and X will sell between 400~600k

I think you mean between ~40-60k

Be realistic. If Call of Duty Ghosts can't crack 100k on Wii U, then neither Bayonetta 2 nor X have much chance for doing better. Not when majority of Nintendo fans are long gone after the Wii in expanding the "casual" base (which migrated to iPads), basically lost the Nintendo "core" to either MS or Sony.

I think that those Nintendo "core" fans are absolutely interested in Nintendo games, but they are not willing to spend $300 on Nintendo Console to have access to a handful of Nintendo games. Especially when they face major expenses in acquiring either PS4 or XBO.

Nintendo has gotten itself positioned as a second choice console even with the Nintendo game fans.