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Solid-Stark on 27 November 2013

Is it time for Nintendo to press the panic button?

Edit: atleast in Japan.



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Dv8thwonder on 27 November 2013
Solid-Stark said:

Is it time for Nintendo to press the panic button?

Edit: atleast in Japan.

That time has long sinced past. Nice stealth edit btw.



Things that need to die in 2016: Defeatist attitudes of Nintendo fans

Dv8thwonder on 27 November 2013
DélioPT said:
pezus said:
DélioPT said:
In terms of HW sales i guess Mario doesn`t usually do a lot for home consoles (at least).

Found this on neogaf:

GCN before Sunshine: 8.242
GCN Sunshine Launch: 31.750

Wii before Galaxy: 34.766
Wii Galaxy Launch: 40.836

Wii before Galaxy 2: 17.870
Wii Galaxy 2 Launch: 21.304

Wii U before 3D World: 14.006
Wii U 3D World Launch: 20.177

Why do the Nintendo fans never realize facts like these prior to a game's release. It's always like they get some kind of a revelation after the numbers are known. I've been saying for a while now that 3D World wouldn't help much and nobody backed me up with these numbers

To be honest, i too had no idea of how little 3D Mario pushes HW on home consoles.

Fixed that for ya.

I will be doing this alot I see.



Things that need to die in 2016: Defeatist attitudes of Nintendo fans

oniyide on 27 November 2013
Soundwave said:

Mario 3D Land caused a nice spike for the 3DS though. From 66k to 137k (Mario 3D Land week).

I think branding the game "Mario 3D World" was a mistake too. For starters it doesn't really even make much sense as the 3D bit in the SM3DL title is to reference the 3D screen, second it just gives the impression of "well I already have this game on my 3DS, why should I buy a Wii U for it?".


there were some people who were saying pretty much the same thing for awhile and some thought they were crazy. Guess they were right, maybe people dont feel the need to buy this if they already have the one for 3ds.



Nintentacle on 27 November 2013

It wasn't even a full week for 3D World. I would wait until the next update until I call it a flop.



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Dv8thwonder on 27 November 2013
Soundwave said:
Dv8thwonder said:
g911turbo said:

At first I was going to say that sounds pretty low, but then someone posted a chart of all past 3D Mario games in Japan. Seems a little low, but not abysmal given the installed base of the Wii U.


It's not the install base. It's the game or should I say the style of game. Japan does not like 3D mario yet Nintendo in all their "genius" couldn't see that fact from past efforts yet they continue to kill any momentum by releasing yet another one. Stupid Nintendo! Why you so stupid?


2D Mario didn't sell it. Wii Party, Wii Sports Club, Wii Fit U, haven't done anything either (so much for casuals). Game & Wario flopped. Nintendo Land did not take. 

So 3D Mario has some company, I've been saying for weeks its unfair for Nintendo fans to put such a burden of "saving" this system on one game and all the silly "no one buys a Nintendo console for a 2D Mario! 3D Mario will save it!" was equally stupid. 

New Super Mario Bros. U while a competent game by today's standards but is mediocre by 2D Mario standards. Japan knows what Mario to like and what not to like. 3D Mario being the latter.

This 3D obsession of Nintendo's will be there undoing. Mark my words. [/thread]



Things that need to die in 2016: Defeatist attitudes of Nintendo fans

Stefan.De.Machtige on 27 November 2013

Not good for all.

A question for those who can read japanese: Does that include digital sales for 3D world?



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DélioPT on 27 November 2013
Dv8thwonder said:
DélioPT said:
pezus said:
DélioPT said:
In terms of HW sales i guess Mario doesn`t usually do a lot for home consoles (at least).

Found this on neogaf:

GCN before Sunshine: 8.242
GCN Sunshine Launch: 31.750

Wii before Galaxy: 34.766
Wii Galaxy Launch: 40.836

Wii before Galaxy 2: 17.870
Wii Galaxy 2 Launch: 21.304

Wii U before 3D World: 14.006
Wii U 3D World Launch: 20.177

Why do the Nintendo fans never realize facts like these prior to a game's release. It's always like they get some kind of a revelation after the numbers are known. I've been saying for a while now that 3D World wouldn't help much and nobody backed me up with these numbers

To be honest, i too had no idea of how little 3D Mario pushes HW on home consoles.

Fixed that for ya.

I will be doing this alot I see.

Thanks for the correction!




Seece on 27 November 2013
Dv8thwonder said:
DélioPT said:
pezus said:
DélioPT said:
In terms of HW sales i guess Mario doesn`t usually do a lot for home consoles (at least).

Found this on neogaf:

GCN before Sunshine: 8.242
GCN Sunshine Launch: 31.750

Wii before Galaxy: 34.766
Wii Galaxy Launch: 40.836

Wii before Galaxy 2: 17.870
Wii Galaxy 2 Launch: 21.304

Wii U before 3D World: 14.006
Wii U 3D World Launch: 20.177

Why do the Nintendo fans never realize facts like these prior to a game's release. It's always like they get some kind of a revelation after the numbers are known. I've been saying for a while now that 3D World wouldn't help much and nobody backed me up with these numbers

To be honest, i too had no idea of how little 3D Mario pushes HW on home consoles.

Fixed that for ya.

I will be doing this a lot I see.

Fixed. :P



 

outlawauron on 27 November 2013
Incubi said:
BasilZero said:
Incubi said:

Just a little perspective. So what now? It seems like shit just got real. WiiU is going nowhere in Japan this year and it seems like its a reality we will just have to accept.


By any chance, source of the chart? Not doubting you or anything, but I like this chart, also does it come with the first 4 mainline mario games as well?

Edit: Nvm, it says "3D" XD. I wonder how 2D sales are like.

Edit 2: Wow SM3DL sold a lot :O, I'm planning to get the game, cant wait XD.

Source is of cource NeoGaf:P

About Taiko no Tetsujin: Taiko games usually seem to debut at around 100k give or take. So the sales of Taiko U is disastrous.

Did they pick and choose trackers or did they use Famitsu for all (since they choose them for this chart).



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