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To show Ubisoft that I also don't buy first party games. I hope they don't feel left out and continue to support Nintendo.



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Classic Galaki



I might not buy it either. I got diamond and got bored before collecting the seventh badge but quit there. Pokemon X/Y is just a better graphics version of the same game that released on Gameboy with new Pokemon, a slight few new quirks like two Pokemon battles and every Pokemon having two types with even more types, etc. The games progression is always the same, beat this evil corporation while collecting the eight badges. It's basically the exact same game in a new world.

Then again. The graphics. That's the reason I bought diamond. I might give it yet another chance because of the next graphics upgrade :P. Then be disappointed yet again. I did like Blue back then, put in over 100 hours, but I'm just all Pokemon'd out because it's always the same game.

RolStoppable said:
I am with you. No Pokémon for me.

By the way, is SMT: Soul Hackers a dungeon crawler like Etrian Odyssey? Watched the trailer on the eShop and got a brief glimpse of movement in first person perspective, turn based battles and the typical SMT demon fusing.

Soul Hackers is disappointing even for an older SMT title.  If you haven't yet purchased it, purchase SMT4 instead.  The problem with Soul Hackers is that the demons are a joke most of the way into the game.  Any demon that uses magic that isn't a buff, the magic spells early on will be incredibly weak.  You'll take off more damage with your main two characters, just make sure to level them up properly.  Your front row demons won't have any attack skills until mid game either, so they're going to do nothing but attack.  So most of the game you'll have two front row demons and your main character attacking, while a back row demon who is there for healing, another back row demon that's there for no reason at all other than to be there and conserve MP(probably for buffing,) and Nemissa who will be your magic damage dealer and other main healer if you need it.

When fusing demons transfering abilities you actually want to a new demon is going to be like winning the lottery.  It's rarely going to happen.  SMT4 makes it too easy, Soul Hackers makes it near impossible to get a great demon with good skills.  Not until end game when the demons already start with the skills. 

It's not a terrible game, but it's "okay."  I'd recommend almost the entire series before I'd recommend it.  Except for the Raidou Kuzunoha games.  Those aren't good in my opinion. 



It's close to classic SMT, i.e. Strange Journey. For the dungeon parts anyways.
I full voice is a nice touch.



If you are not buying pokemon , you are not buying your life.



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RolStoppable said:
Galaki said:
It's close to classic SMT, i.e. Strange Journey. For the dungeon parts anyways.
I full voice is a nice touch.

Was looking at Strange Journey a couple of years ago, but didn't care enough to pursue an import copy. So Soul Hackers is a game where you have to draw your own map? Not sure if I can warm up to the demon fusing, but otherwise it looks like a game that is at least worth to keep in mind and pick up eventually.

Read my previous comment.  I edited my post to include your quote.  And no, you don't draw your own map.  It auto maps.  You can turn off an app so that it doesn't auto map and you just won't have a map.  Then you could draw your own map on paper if you wanted to.

Also, I'd get Strange Journey.  I haven't played it, but from what I've seen and heard, the game is alot better.  If you're not into demon fusion though, then I'd recommend Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2.  SMT Nocturne/SMT gameplay with a different way to learn skills, no fusions, get extra skills by switching mantras.  The Persona games as well, but they do have card fusion, so still sort of like demon fusion, but it's better than in Soul Hackers.



RolStoppable said:

Well, in that case I won't bother with Soul Hackers. Also, if an important portion of the game (demon fusing) requires luck to work properly, then that's another big negative.

SMT4 is still on my maybe-list, it just has to release in Europe first. I don't mind it at all if the demon fusing is supposedly too easy, because pretty much any kind of breeding mechanic annoys me. The easier it is, the less time I'll have to spend on it. And that can only be a good thing.

The demon fusing page in SMT 4 show you the top 3 "best" fusions you can do, with what the game considers the best skills and stats you can transfer. I personally never used it because I like to play with my fusions but if you don't like to spend too much time fusing demons then this is probably the best option.



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RolStoppable said:
kupomogli said:

Read my previous comment.  I edited my post to include your quote.  And no, you don't draw your own map.  It auto maps.  You can turn off an app so that it doesn't auto map and you just won't have a map.  Then you could draw your own map on paper if you wanted to.

Well, in that case I won't bother with Soul Hackers. Also, if an important portion of the game (demon fusing) requires luck to work properly, then that's another big negative.

SMT4 is still on my maybe-list, it just has to release in Europe first. I don't mind it at all if the demon fusing is supposedly too easy, because pretty much any kind of breeding mechanic annoys me. The easier it is, the less time I'll have to spend on it. And that can only be a good thing.

Well.  It's not luck on Soul Hackers.  On SMT3 you can cancel out and go back in to transfer different skills.  On Soul Hackers, the skills that are transferred are preset.  There's no changing them at all.  That's why I say it's like winning the lottery.  It's rare.

Also what Osed said with SMT4.  Plus when you fuse.  Say you have all eight skills you want to transfer and don't want to keep any of the ones the new demon has.  You can transfer all eight skills.  Just click the ones you want to keep when fusion.  Extremely simple.  Press turn combat is also awesome, only on SMT4, SMT3, and Digital Devil Saga series.



Yeah, that'll show Ubisoft!



RolStoppable said:

By the way, is SMT: Soul Hackers a dungeon crawler like Etrian Odyssey? Watched the trailer on the eShop and got a brief glimpse of movement in first person perspective, turn based battles and the typical SMT demon fusing.

I was thinking though.  If you have a semi capable PC and you're interested in the first person dungeon crawler genre, here are some games you might like.  If you wait for a GOG sale, these will be 50% off.  Skip Might and Magic 1 and 2, play the rest.

Might and Magic Collection.  http://www.gog.com/game/might_and_magic_6_limited_edition

Wizardry 6 and 7.  http://www.gog.com/game/wizardry_6_7