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Zekkyou said:
orniletter said:
Zekkyou said:

That's hardly how it went down. People were upset it wasn't on the PS360, not the PS4/XBO. I'm glad Nintendo stepped in and saved it, but people being upset that it was on a completely different platform to its predecessor was perfectly understandable. Especially when few PS360 gamers are looking to buy a WiiU, since there is little about it which shows it off as being superior to the better establishes current gen consoles.


This bit is understandable if you would think that Nintendo would secure Bayo 2 as a "MS-moneyhat" (paying for the game not appearing on other platforms, games that would have been made without MS interference)....but that wasn´t the case, the game was cancelled und wouldn´t have been made at all, the choice wasn´t Bayo 2 on PS360 OR WiiU, it was WiiU or nothing !

And reading some of the older comments and the sheer venom and shit thrown at Nintendo and especially Kamiya (Japan should be nuked etc.) people made up excuses to justify their hate ("I don´t believe that they wouldn´t have found another publisher") even after it was announced that Bayonetta 2 existed only because of Nintendo (and there are still people around, even in this very forum, who think this way)

 

....and your last bit is just pure ignorance....

I said them being upset was perfectly understandable, not that it shouldn't have happened. I don't consider it money-hatting as they are funding the game rather than simply buying it. I'm glad they did save it, I was just pointing out that it's understandable for them to be upset.

How was my last point ignorant? Other than the WiiU Pad (which few people are particularly excited by), in what way has the WiiU separated itself from the current gen? It's more expensive, has VASTLY smaller library (with only a single exclusive game above 85 on metacritic. I don't personally care much for reviews, but enough people do that it's an important note) and it’s games are still graphically below the current gen consoles (yes it has a moderate amount more power than them, but it has been far from utilised).

 

I'm not saying in the future we won't see great things from the WiiU, but that at this present moment it has done little to give people reason to buy it over the PS360, which is reflected in its poor sales.

you're saying that like the PS4 is 200$ and launching with 600 games.



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i just had to post this:



MohammadBadir said:
Zekkyou said:

I said them being upset was perfectly understandable, not that it shouldn't have happened. I don't consider it money-hatting as they are funding the game rather than simply buying it. I'm glad they did save it, I was just pointing out that it's understandable for them to be upset.

How was my last point ignorant? Other than the WiiU Pad (which few people are particularly excited by), in what way has the WiiU separated itself from the current gen? It's more expensive, has VASTLY smaller library (with only a single exclusive game above 85 on metacritic. I don't personally care much for reviews, but enough people do that it's an important note) and it’s games are still graphically below the current gen consoles (yes it has a moderate amount more power than them, but it has been far from utilised).

 

I'm not saying in the future we won't see great things from the WiiU, but that at this present moment it has done little to give people reason to buy it over the PS360, which is reflected in its poor sales.

you're saying that like the PS4 is 200$ and launching with 600 games.

I’m not sure why you are bringing the PS4 into the discussion, when I never mentioned it in my comment. I've said in previous threads I have little intention of getting the PS4 or XBO at launch, as I don't believe either have line ups that can yet justify the cost.

I was talking purely about the WiiU compared to the PS360. The same argument could be carried over to the PS4 and XBO (though they seem to have more optimistic futures than the WiiU right now).



Mnementh said:
Carl2291 said:
Bayonetta was brilliant, so hopefully this can sell well enough for Nintendo and Platinum to consider doing something more with the franchise.

Bayonetta X Samus?


That would be overkill. And totally awsome.



Max King of the Wild said:
Looking at it now it looks as if Nintendo just delayed that instead of stopping it


I hope you're satisfied with that comment. It says more about you than it says about nintendo.



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I wonder how this actually came about:

Like did Hideki Kamiya ask Nintendo for help? If so, did he ask MS or Sony before asking Nintendo since the first game was on their consoles. Meaning did MS or Sony rejected helping him? Cause I honstely can't see MS or Sony turning it down.



Can we still blame Nintendo for destroying the Bayonetta franchise? Please?



Will be the best action game ever made, just like the first one was when it came out.

Unfortunately I'm not sure it will get the sales being exclusive to the Wii U, but hopefully it is successful enough to continue.

Its one of the best new IPs to come from this generation. Wish Platinum the best for this series.



It still is.



Xen said:
It still is.