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Forums - General Discussion - God doesn't prevent terrible things because?

 

Please choose wisely....

A. He can't 24 6.96%
 
B. He doesn't want to 86 24.93%
 
C. He causes them 22 6.38%
 
D. He doesn't exist. 213 61.74%
 
Total:345
-CraZed- said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:


Well then, what is your positive answer?

Oh I don't know maybe something like He prefers to allow physical beings who actually occupy the planet work it out? Or simply, He imbued each of us with free will.

Any answer that does not denegrate God or those who believe in his existence would do....

Also I am not advocating that th other answers be eliminated just that including answers that run contrary to the overt theme of 'Because bad shit happen's you are an idiot for believing in a nonexistent, uncaring, impotent and/or cruel being.'

 


Sounds a lot like answer B.



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MegaManX said:
E. Free Will

Actually now that I think about it, I don't think there could be a God because no loving God would give this troll a career. He's known for his views on religion and his tweets. I'm glad we still live in a country where we are all free to believe in what we want but for somebody in showbiz, he should probably shut his mouth if he wants ratings/fans/box office revenue. I don't dislike him because he has different beliefs than me, I dislike him because he really isn't funny and has a condensending attitude that is a big turnoff.

F. Perspective on what is evil, and things that are problems are.  Like, I think it is a pretty close to terrible thing I have to tolerate another individual rehashing Ricky Gervais rehasing underdeveloped theological thoughts.  Individuals like him are like individuals who think they outgrew Santa, know better, and just can't let others live with their belief in Santa.  Because, when they lost their belief in Santa, they feel they are missing something, and long for greateness.  If they, somehow, just can find the magic bullet, they will be famous.  They will the tbe Wyld Stallyns of this world, and society will build a shrine to their wisdom.   So, maybe I can go with Chesterton on this one and say that, if it wasn't for God, there wouldn't be atheists like Gervaris.  They are individuals that live to be attention whores, because being on the top of the mind of people gets them work

Free will can answer a number of things, but doesn't answer all.  And it is uncertain even if Free Will exists.  But, I say it can count for some though.  Like, the bulk of First World Problems:

God's fault?

I am sure they could be others to, as for the nature of evil, which is useful to discuss in general.  But for me to spend time on it with an individual who merely has an axe to grind, and axe grinding is part of their ability to get fame?  Sorry, not feeding that.



Because he causes them, he actually wants to bring to the world a big whale-like being that will destroy everything as a punishment for all of our sins.



God is absolute good, he is omniscient, and he is said to has a plan for all living humans. So with this said, exactly what 'terrible' things is God suppose to prevent when there is nothing terrible to prevent?

lets remember that we are mere humans, born sinners, and easily corruptible, our moral standards can not compare to God. These people who deem that 'terrible' things require 'prevention' are people who think themselves equal or better than God, and who are these self righteous people to judge God in the first place?

So when we think things are 'terrible' and requires 'prevention', just stop for a moment and think, then you'd realize that prevention is not required because there is nothing terrible happening, God is absolute good and the plans he has for each one of us is playing out exactly how it should, and we the created have should NOT question our creator. After all, we want to be with God in heaven, God loves us, and in his absolute goodness has a plan for us to reach heaven, all we have to do is accept him into our hearts so that we may be judged righteous enough to enter heaven.

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If you are a true believer, then there is nothing that's ever wrong, everything happens for a reason, and that reason is Gods plan, so technically no believer should ever question this plan.In fact they should all be ecstatic when their life ends as it brings them closer to their God and bliss in heaven...to want to prolong life in the flesh or help others prolong life in the flesh is to have doubts about their God, his plans, and the after life, in which case most believers would default to agnosticism as they play pascals wager. (I would say this is the best position believers can have if they can not drop faith altogether, because at least it allows them to cherry pick and only follow the best things in the bible making them better people)

But if your not a believer, you are a realist, after all the life we currently have is the only life we know we have, which makes life that more precious. Our strong empathy allows us to judge and deem things to be terrible and of course try to find solutions and ways to prevent such terrible things from occurring in the first place. Just because an authority does something which is bad but says it's good, like slavery, does not mean that it's good, which is why people question and judge, if deemed bad they'll fight it in one way or another until there is change, it is also why we help others in other countries when struck by natural disasters. Empathy is the greatest attribute we have for the survival of our species but also for the stability of our way of life in the communities we live in.



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-CraZed- said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
-CraZed- said:

The better question is.:

People do terrible things because?

Also I like how all the responses are load so that no matter how you answer it suggest a negative. Is that the only way stupid people can prove a point? That to me suggest an inherent lack of confidence in ones own beliefs.


Well then, what is your positive answer?

Oh I don't know maybe something like He prefers to allow physical beings who actually occupy the planet work it out? Or simply, He imbued each of us with free will.

Any answer that does not denegrate God or those who believe in his existence would do....

Also I am not advocating that th other answers be eliminated just that including answers that run contrary to the overt theme of 'Because bad shit happen's you are an idiot for believing in a nonexistent, uncaring, impotent and/or cruel being.'

 

You seem overtly upset by a simple question. Really speaks volumes to the frailty of your nonsensical belief system.

If god is ominpotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent there should exist nothing terrible as all terrible things are preventable to such an entity, and as this entity supposedly loves all it would not be possible to simply allow them to occur as that would contradict that quality.

When dissecting nonsense one only concludes nonsense. Garbage in, garbage out.



dsgrue3 said:
-CraZed- said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
-CraZed- said:

The better question is.:

People do terrible things because?

Also I like how all the responses are load so that no matter how you answer it suggest a negative. Is that the only way stupid people can prove a point? That to me suggest an inherent lack of confidence in ones own beliefs.


Well then, what is your positive answer?

Oh I don't know maybe something like He prefers to allow physical beings who actually occupy the planet work it out? Or simply, He imbued each of us with free will.

Any answer that does not denegrate God or those who believe in his existence would do....

Also I am not advocating that th other answers be eliminated just that including answers that run contrary to the overt theme of 'Because bad shit happen's you are an idiot for believing in a nonexistent, uncaring, impotent and/or cruel being.'

 

You seem overtly upset by a simple question. Really speaks volumes to the frailty of your nonsensical belief system.

If god is ominpotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent there should exist nothing terrible as all terrible things are preventable to such an entity, and as this entity supposedly loves all it would not be possible to simply allow them to occur as that would contradict that quality.

When dissecting nonsense one only concludes nonsense. Garbage in, garbage out.

I am no more upset than you are. You'll notice I explicitly stated: "I am not advocating that the other answers be eliminated..." So what it speaks volumes about is that I think a bit of balance would better serve the topic at hand and to your inability to read.

I get you think belief in a God is nonsense. Which to me seems very narrow (given there is no proof as such) and your constant attacks and denigration towards people who do believe is really proof of your own frailty and fear. Who takes every opportunity to trash another person's beliefs (which you seem to do a lot when these type of topics surface) other than a bully, and bullies typically lack self-esteem and any sense of real self-worth.

That said, maybe you are highly confident and know everything.... either way you show your inability to consider a view point other than your own concrete beliefs. And please don't tell me your thought process is rooted in science, because even in science we NEVER claim to really know anything we choose to either accept or reject the results. If you like to debate on how often scientific beliefs have had to change throughout the centuries I'd be happy to oblige.

Lastly, - Garbage in, garbage out. I am certainly not a computer and I assume, neither are you. I know I question my environment and my beliefs all the time. The question is do you?



I find it funny how most of us think a God, or creator doesn't exist. Did it ever occur to you that this is all one gigantic simulation? That maybe, "God" is just a gamer, who created self conscious "god sim"? Science is already moving towards this possibility and if science starts buying into it, then what?

Personally, I think anyone who believes one way or the other, is a fool. It's like walking into a house you've never been to, looking at a locked door and saying "there's a blue blanket in that door" or "there's nothing in that door". The truth is, there MAY be a creator, and there may NOT be a creator.



IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
-CraZed- said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:


Well then, what is your positive answer?

Oh I don't know maybe something like He prefers to allow physical beings who actually occupy the planet work it out? Or simply, He imbued each of us with free will.

Any answer that does not denegrate God or those who believe in his existence would do....

Also I am not advocating that th other answers be eliminated just that including answers that run contrary to the overt theme of 'Because bad shit happen's you are an idiot for believing in a nonexistent, uncaring, impotent and/or cruel being.'

 


Sounds a lot like answer B.

That's not what I get from answer B. Answer B suggests God is callus and just doesn't want to...



-CraZed- said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Sounds a lot like answer B.

That's not what I get from answer B. Answer B suggests God is callus and just doesn't want to...


Which is the truth. If God wanted to prevent terrible things from happening, there is nothing stopping him. Everything is happening according to his plan and terrible things are a part of it.

 

I'd also like a "positive" option in the poll, but it really doesn't exist.