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Veracity said:
adriane23 said:
Casually. I'm too disgusted with the State of Florida to keep much interest. Plus, as soon as it was found out that Zimmerman suffered injuries, I knew the bigots of America would abandon all reason.

Yeah the black community are known bigots. Trayvon Martin on the phone with his friend: this "creepy ass cracker" in regards to Zimmerman. 


Ehh..

*cringes*

 

Edit: welp there goes the support he had from the white community..



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The cross-examination portion of this case is a defense attorneys dream. LOL...They flopped hard by letting Zimmermans best friend speak. LOL The uselessness that came out of that guys mouth.



Veracity said:
adriane23 said:
Casually. I'm too disgusted with the State of Florida to keep much interest. Plus, as soon as it was found out that Zimmerman suffered injuries, I knew the bigots of America would abandon all reason.

Yeah the black community are known bigots. Trayvon Martin on the phone with his friend: this "creepy ass cracker" in regards to Zimmerman. 

Cracker isn't a racist term, its another word for a slave owner with a whip or cowman with a whip (which there are still many "Crackers" from Florida to Mexico). Crack as in crack of the whip, not saltine cracker. I guess some never let slavery go. Ignorance is ignorance, but cracker isn't a racist term. If anything everytime a black person says it historically it demeans them. Its like saying "oppressor" or " Everyone run the cracker is coming!"



Figgycal said:
Veracity said:
Trayvon Martin is a thug. He attacked Zimmerman and was shot for it. Should have just gone home. Zimmerman was not the crusader the media portrayed him to be at all.

We can all rest easy knowing there is one less criminal on earth.


Comments like that is why the civil rights people are up in arms. George Zimmerman stalked and shot an innocent 17 year old kid because he looked suspicious. I even watched the Sean Hannity interview with Zimmerman (and I hate Sean Hannity) and he basically admitted to having started the confrotation and went on to say it was all part of God's plan- as if murdering a child wasn't enough. I wont rest easy unless the dude gets what he deserves.

What I hate is that they tried to pin 2nd degree on him. SMDH

"Stalked?" We have already established that GZ lived in that community and TM did not. We've already established that the community had been experiencing a large number of break-ins and thefts. It is not a crime to ask someone what their business is in your neighborhood or even follow them as they walk on PRIVATE property. GZ lives in a 'gated' or 'planned' community and the sidewalks and roads within those are PRIVATE property. The folks who live theri have the right to 'patrol' and even ask people who do not live there or are loitering to leave. I don't care if GZ said "Hey punk get outta my neighborhood!" TM was an interloper on the private property of the residents of that community and was therefore wrong for puttig his hands on GZ.

GZ has already explained that he inquired why the young man was there and we now know TM thought he was a crazy a$$ cracker. And unless you or anyone else can provide eye witness testimony to dispute GZs accunt (which jives with the facts so far AND the 911 call transcripts) then he is not guilty. SO rest easy because he will get what he deserves... an acquital.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
 

Cracker isn't a racist term, its another word for a slave owner with a whip or cowman with a whip. Crack as in crack of the whip, not saltine cracker. I guess some never let slavery go. Ignorance is ignorance, but cracker isn't a racist term. If anything everytime a black person says it historically it demeans them. Its like saying "oppressor"


Etymology can't be used to justify whether a term is racist or not. That's a kind of genetic fallacy. There are very few terms, if at all, created to mean offense. Otherwise I could just say nigger simply means black-colored instead of anything offensive since that's what the original latin term means.



 

 

 

 

 

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S.T.A.G.E. said:
Veracity said:
adriane23 said:
Casually. I'm too disgusted with the State of Florida to keep much interest. Plus, as soon as it was found out that Zimmerman suffered injuries, I knew the bigots of America would abandon all reason.

Yeah the black community are known bigots. Trayvon Martin on the phone with his friend: this "creepy ass cracker" in regards to Zimmerman. 

Cracker isn't a racist term, its another word for a slave owner with a whip or cowman with a whip. Crack as in crack of the whip, not saltine cracker. I guess some never let slavery go. Ignorance is ignorance, but cracker isn't a racist term. If anything everytime a black person says it historically it demeans them. Its like saying "oppressor"


True but it is still racial

 

Everybody knows where the word came from. The white community dont like to be called that word. Some dont take offense to that word for this very reason but still dont like being called that word.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Veracity said:
adriane23 said:
Casually. I'm too disgusted with the State of Florida to keep much interest. Plus, as soon as it was found out that Zimmerman suffered injuries, I knew the bigots of America would abandon all reason.

Yeah the black community are known bigots. Trayvon Martin on the phone with his friend: this "creepy ass cracker" in regards to Zimmerman. 

Cracker isn't a racist term, its another word for a slave owner with a whip or cowman with a whip (which there are still many "Crackers" from Florida to Mexico). Crack as in crack of the whip, not saltine cracker. I guess some never let slavery go. Ignorance is ignorance, but cracker isn't a racist term. If anything everytime a black person says it historically it demeans them. Its like saying "oppressor" or " Everyone run the cracker is coming!"

Dude thats like some white people trying to say they should be able to say N___ because black people call each other N___. It is very much a racist term as it is meant as a pejorative and has a definite negative conotation attached to it. It is meant to demean the Caucasian it is directed towards. I truly can't believe you posted that.



haxxiy said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
 

Cracker isn't a racist term, its another word for a slave owner with a whip or cowman with a whip. Crack as in crack of the whip, not saltine cracker. I guess some never let slavery go. Ignorance is ignorance, but cracker isn't a racist term. If anything everytime a black person says it historically it demeans them. Its like saying "oppressor"


Etymology can't be used to justify whether a term is racist or not.  That's a kind of genetic fallacy. Otherwise I could just say nigger simply means black-colored instead of anything offensive since that's what the original latin term means.


You do know when black people says Nigga, they are demeaning themselves right? Its ignorance. He even called Zimmerman a "Nigga", which means "guy" interchangably if you paid attention to the testimony. 

Most African Americans don't even know the reason why they say cracker, they just say it, but they aren't doing their ancestors any favors. 



-CraZed- said:
Figgycal said:
Veracity said:
Trayvon Martin is a thug. He attacked Zimmerman and was shot for it. Should have just gone home. Zimmerman was not the crusader the media portrayed him to be at all.

We can all rest easy knowing there is one less criminal on earth.


Comments like that is why the civil rights people are up in arms. George Zimmerman stalked and shot an innocent 17 year old kid because he looked suspicious. I even watched the Sean Hannity interview with Zimmerman (and I hate Sean Hannity) and he basically admitted to having started the confrotation and went on to say it was all part of God's plan- as if murdering a child wasn't enough. I wont rest easy unless the dude gets what he deserves.

What I hate is that they tried to pin 2nd degree on him. SMDH

"Stalked?" We have already established that GZ lived in that community and TM did not. We've already established that the community had been experiencing a large number of break-ins and thefts. It is not a crime to ask someone what their business is in your neighborhood or even follow them as they walk on PRIVATE property. GZ lives in a 'gated' or 'planned' community and the sidewalks and roads within those are PRIVATE property. The folks who live theri have the right to 'patrol' and even ask people who do not live there or are loitering to leave. I don't care if GZ said "Hey punk get outta my neighborhood!" TM was an interloper on the private property of the residents of that community and was therefore wrong for puttig his hands on GZ.

GZ has already explained that he inquired why the young man was there and we now know TM thought he was a crazy a$$ cracker. And unless you or anyone else can provide eye witness testimony to dispute GZs accunt (which jives with the facts so far AND the 911 call transcripts) then he is not guilty. SO rest easy because he will get what he deserves... an acquital.

^^ I agree with this post. He'll walk.



-CraZed- said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:



Cracker isn't a racist term, its another word for a slave owner with a whip or cowman with a whip (which there are still many "Crackers" from Florida to Mexico). Crack as in crack of the whip, not saltine cracker. I guess some never let slavery go. Ignorance is ignorance, but cracker isn't a racist term. If anything everytime a black person says it historically it demeans them. Its like saying "oppressor" or " Everyone run the cracker is coming!"

Dude thats like some white people trying to say they should be able to say N___ because black people call each other N___. It is very much a racist term as it is meant as a pejorative and has a definite negative conotation attached to it. It is meant to demean the Caucasian it is directed towards. I truly can't believe you posted that.

You can't believe what, that I posted the truth?


I understand black people say it to white people (im not deaf), but again I dont think they realize they are technically saying "oppressor" when they say cracker. Not all caucasians are crackers. Go to central florida and if you call some cowmen crackers they'll say "yes, yes, I am" with pride because their families had been crackers for generations. As I said, I don't even think black people who use the term why they call white people crackers. Im not defending them, no...I am just saying its ignorance...its equally as stupid as accepting the term "nigga" as a alternative way of saying guy. Trayvon called Zimmerman a "Nigga". Is he racist for calling him a "Nigga"? Its just ignorant talking really, think about it.