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Wasteland Remaster looking pretty nice and confirmed for Xbox One.



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JEMC said:
EricHiggin said:

Nvidia has a strangle hold on the GPU market and even Navi at $50 cheaper isn't likely to change that much. AMD might as well profit as much as they can without losing too much market share. At least they can use that to up their R&D budget going forward. As long as you have enough people thanking AMD for forcing GeForce prices down so they can buy that Nvidia product they've been waiting for, AMD should just keep pricing slightly below Nvidia's. Worst case scenario, Nvidia basically takes the entire market, then eventually slacks off on the tech advancements and jacks the prices up even more so, and creates the opportunity for another fewer core Intel vs higher core Ryzen at half the price scenario.

I've got a couple buddies who've been AMD/Radeon fans for as long as I can remember, and while they have Ryzen rigs now, they kept their existing Radeon cards for a couple years, and they both bought RTX 2000 cards last boxing day. Neither was willing to wait for Navi and neither says they plan to move back to Radeon anytime soon, even after the 5700 information we have now. There isn't much point in AMD trying to beat Nvidia for the next while. They might as well make bank and PC gamers can either change their minds and save a few bucks, or learn a hard lesson eventually.

Contrary to Intel, Nvidia has no real reason to stop their tech advancements, because their main focus isn't gaming, but workstations, an area that is still demanding more and more compute power. That's why they usually reveal their new architectures showing their compute and workstation parts, and then the cut down gaming versions.

Also, despite how bad was AMD in the CPU front, it managed to hold at least a 20% marketshare or close to that number. AMD has already gone below that number and only bounced back a bit because they rule the low and mid market thanks to its good price/performance ratio. If they start increasing prices, they'll lose that advantage, and they may lose a lot more ground to Nvidia up to a point where they'll be meaningless.

And it's not that AMD is going to launch $50 cheaper products, it's that, as Barkley showed yesterday, they may be even more expensive than the Nvidia counterparts. Mostly so if Nvidia lowers the price of the "older" RTX parts once they launch the Super versions.

Your friends not changing back to AMD is understandable. At best it would be a side-grade rather than an upgrade so, unless you have money to burn, it's not worth it.

Correct, but do you really think Nvidia would put much effort into the cut down gaming versions if they basically had the entire gaming market to themselves, with Intel and AMD fighting for the last 5-10% of the market?

Well is RTX really worth it over the features that the RX 5700 series is bringing to the table? RTX is extra, and what's going to become the next big thing in the future, but how often has Radeon provided extra capability that would be useful down the road, especially as drivers mature and devs take advantage of it, yet it didn't really do much for them for some odd reason.

Radeon can continue to put up a decent fight and continue to lose, or make bank and lose, and hope Nvidia pulls an Intel so they can get their foot back in the door due to a lot of angry gamers and worthy future tech and good will from Radeon. I don't blame AMD because while they're making their CPU comeback, they are just getting started with the GPU's now, but don't have the same luxury with Nvidia that they did with Intel.

It is understandable, which is part of the problem. When long time buyers of your brand who aren't what you would call hardcore, finally switch, and who and are content with the change, that's really bad news. I'm sure AMD knows this, and is probably a big part of the reason for the higher prices. If you're only going to stagnate at best, if not continue to lose market share, yet again, you might as well price gouge while you can.

Maybe in the future AMD will have to become the go to CPU brand with some GPU capability, and Intel will have to go head to head with Nvidia and have CPU's to sell as well.



EricHiggin said:

I've got a couple buddies who've been AMD/Radeon fans for as long as I can remember, and while they have Ryzen rigs now, they kept their existing Radeon cards for a couple years, and they both bought RTX 2000 cards last boxing day. Neither was willing to wait for Navi and neither says they plan to move back to Radeon anytime soon, even after the 5700 information we have now. There isn't much point in AMD trying to beat Nvidia for the next while. They might as well make bank and PC gamers can either change their minds and save a few bucks, or learn a hard lesson eventually.

Basically been my messaging for over a year now, that it isn't worth waiting for Navi as it's just a Polaris replacement, aka. Mid-range part.

JEMC said:

Contrary to Intel, Nvidia has no real reason to stop their tech advancements, because their main focus isn't gaming, but workstations, an area that is still demanding more and more compute power. That's why they usually reveal their new architectures showing their compute and workstation parts, and then the cut down gaming versions.

nVidia also has a big incentive to sell more hardware to it's own customers... Added value incentives like Ray Tracing is just one tactic for that.

JEMC said:
^Indeed, it looks more like a new range of cards than just a refresh.

nVidia is certainly not going to allow AMD to garner any advantages it seems.

AMD's response will be that they will do the same (I.E. 16Gbps GDDR6 vs 14Gbps) and higher clocks thanks to maturing manufacturing... Or price drops across the entire Navi Lineup.

What I really am looking forwards to though is a half-height, single slot GPU that is a step up over the Geforce 1030 for my Core 2 Quad rig.



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So now you'll get a free game every week from EGS. Talk about putting yourself above competitors without "shady" business practices. Finally a feature that no other store has.



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It's a good thing I already have a majority of those games in my library, as well as games I'm not interested in.


Also, thank the industry that we have other venues to obtain free games and bundles from as well.

Looking forward to them client updates for Steam and GoG Galaxy 2.0 though. Galaxy 2.0 is going to be lit when it hits, and a boon for the PC side of things. Wonder if Epic will one them up, without having to pull shady shit. 



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https://wccftech.com/exclusive-nvidias-super-gpus-unleashing-monsters/

I know it's wccftech but would be interesting if that stuff was true. A completely new Chip for a 2080Ti Super sounds lovely.



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EricHiggin said:
JEMC said:

Contrary to Intel, Nvidia has no real reason to stop their tech advancements, because their main focus isn't gaming, but workstations, an area that is still demanding more and more compute power. That's why they usually reveal their new architectures showing their compute and workstation parts, and then the cut down gaming versions.

Also, despite how bad was AMD in the CPU front, it managed to hold at least a 20% marketshare or close to that number. AMD has already gone below that number and only bounced back a bit because they rule the low and mid market thanks to its good price/performance ratio. If they start increasing prices, they'll lose that advantage, and they may lose a lot more ground to Nvidia up to a point where they'll be meaningless.

And it's not that AMD is going to launch $50 cheaper products, it's that, as Barkley showed yesterday, they may be even more expensive than the Nvidia counterparts. Mostly so if Nvidia lowers the price of the "older" RTX parts once they launch the Super versions.

Your friends not changing back to AMD is understandable. At best it would be a side-grade rather than an upgrade so, unless you have money to burn, it's not worth it.

Correct, but do you really think Nvidia would put much effort into the cut down gaming versions if they basically had the entire gaming market to themselves, with Intel and AMD fighting for the last 5-10% of the market?

Well is RTX really worth it over the features that the RX 5700 series is bringing to the table? RTX is extra, and what's going to become the next big thing in the future, but how often has Radeon provided extra capability that would be useful down the road, especially as drivers mature and devs take advantage of it, yet it didn't really do much for them for some odd reason.

Radeon can continue to put up a decent fight and continue to lose, or make bank and lose, and hope Nvidia pulls an Intel so they can get their foot back in the door due to a lot of angry gamers and worthy future tech and good will from Radeon. I don't blame AMD because while they're making their CPU comeback, they are just getting started with the GPU's now, but don't have the same luxury with Nvidia that they did with Intel.

It is understandable, which is part of the problem. When long time buyers of your brand who aren't what you would call hardcore, finally switch, and who and are content with the change, that's really bad news. I'm sure AMD knows this, and is probably a big part of the reason for the higher prices. If you're only going to stagnate at best, if not continue to lose market share, yet again, you might as well price gouge while you can.

Maybe in the future AMD will have to become the go to CPU brand with some GPU capability, and Intel will have to go head to head with Nvidia and have CPU's to sell as well.

What I'm saying is that the tactic of letting go their GPU business hoping to find a breakthrough and/or a mistake from the competition to make a come back is extremely risky and failed by nature. It's a miracle they've been able to do that in the CPU front, but to expect the same feat to repeat again is wishful thinking. AMD needs to keep fighting and trying their best to hold a chance.

Just look at the RTX cards you mentioned. They use MSoft's raytracing, but they also use propietary tech like Nvidia always does. We need AMD to keep in the fight to prevent Nvidia's propietary tech to become the de facto industry standard, just like they avoided G-Sync to dominate the market.

Oh, and let's not fool ourselves, Intel will come back. Yes, they've been slacking and focusing on low power to try to beat ARM, but they're still a powerhouse with very deep pockets and will launch a competitive product sooner rather than later.



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Thursday news:

SALES & DEALS

Sea of Thieves has had 2 million players since its big update
https://www.pcgamer.com/sea-of-thieves-has-had-2-million-players-since-its-big-update/
The Sea of Thieves Anniversary update, which primarily added a new lore-based series of quests, fishing, and the PvP-focused Arena mode, has attracted 2 million players since it released at the end of April, and a total of 8.4 million have played Sea of Thieves since it launched in 2018.

Steam has two new daily deals:

On the Humble Store, Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen is the Spotlight Deal, 70% off for the next 3 days: https://www.humblebundle.com/store/dragons-dogma-dark-arisen

And at Fanatical, there are two more deals:

SOFTWARE & DRIVERS

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MODS/EMULATORS

New Dragon Ball Unreal, DBZ game in Unreal Engine 4, public free demo is now available for download
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/new-dragon-ball-unreal-dbz-game-in-unreal-engine-4-public-free-demo-is-now-available-for-download/
Dragon Ball fans, here is something for you today. emudshit has released a brand new demo for his Dragon Ball game in Unreal Engine 4, Dragon Ball Unreal, that is currently available for download.
Now as you will immediately notice, this project is still in a early stage. Some animations are not refined and the movement still needs a lot of work. Dragon Ball Unreal has been under development for a long time and, to be honest, I don’t expect to ever see a polished version of it. Still, and for being a game that is created by a single person, it looks absolutely amazing.
>> You can download the demo from their Discord channel.

Doom Remake 4 shuts down due to cease and desist from Zenimax
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/doom-remake-4-shuts-down-due-to-cease-and-desist-from-zenimax/
Back in January 2019, we informed you about a new mod for the first Doom game that aimed to overhaul its visuals. Created by modder ‘vasyan777’, Doom Remake 4 brought with it High Resolution textures with PBR materials, 3D models of every object and enemy, New HUD, Brutal mods with plenty of blood and gibsmore lights, support for the Vulkan API and more. However, it appears that this mod is no longer under active development.
A few days ago, Zenimax sent vasyan777 a Cease and Desist letter, stating that the current use of the Doom IP on the Doom Remake 4 website and social media pages is without Zenimax’s authorization and is infringing. As such, the modder had to take immediate steps to remove all uses of ZeniMax Media Inc intellectual property, including DOOM copyrights, trademarks, characters, artwork, images, and logos and desist from any further use.
>> Shame.

GAMING NEWS

inXile Entertainment’s Wasteland 3 to be released in Spring 2020
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/inxile-entertainments-wasteland-3-to-be-released-in-spring-2020/
inXile Entertainment and Deep Silver have announced that Wasteland 3 will be arriving in Spring 2020 on Windows, Mac, and Linux. The legendary series, which pioneered the post-apocalypse genre in video games, aims to return players to the role of Desert Rangers, lawmen in a post-nuclear world working to rebuild civilization from the ashes.

Halo Reach PC gameplay footage from E3 2019 (off-camera)
https://www.dsogaming.com/videotrailer-news/halo-reach-pc-gameplay-footage-from-e3-2019-off-camera/
Microsoft had a playable PC version of Halo: Reach at E3 2019, and below you can find 3 minutes of gameplay footage from it. Unfortunately, this is off-camera footage however we are certain that all Halo PC fans will be interested in everything regarding the PC versions of all Halo games.

DOOM Eternal will support Ray Tracing
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/doom-eternal-will-support-ray-tracing/
During Giant Bomb’s latest videocast, id Software’s Marty Stratton confirmed that DOOM Eternal will support Ray Tracing. Now this caught us off guard as both NVIDIA and id Software have not announced anything yet about DOOM Eternal.

Here are 11 minutes of gameplay footage from Gears 5’s Escape Mode
https://www.dsogaming.com/videotrailer-news/here-are-11-minutes-of-gameplay-footage-from-gears-5s-escape-mode/
Microsoft and The Coalition have shared a new video, showing 11 minutes of gameplay footage from Gears 5’s Escape mode. As the teams have noted, this video features gameplay with just 4/8 mutators enabled including the dreaded Aggressive Venom.

E3 2019 public and closed gameplay demos for Cyberpunk 2077 were running on the PC
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/e3-2019-public-and-closed-gameplay-demos-for-cyberpunk-2077-were-running-on-the-pc/
As we’ve already reported, CD Projekt RED had a public and a closed demo for Cyberpunk 2077 at E3 2019. However, it appears that some publications have mistakenly assumed that these demos were running on consoles instead of the PC.
As CD Projekt RED’s Marcin Momot confirmed, Cyberpunk 2077 was showcased on the PC in E3 2019.
>> Well, d'uh!

Here are 18 minutes of gameplay footage from the E3 2019 demo of CONTROL
https://www.dsogaming.com/videotrailer-news/here-are-18-minutes-of-gameplay-footage-from-the-e3-2019-demo-of-control/
Gamespot has shared a video, showing 18 minutes of gameplay footage from the E3 2019 demo of Control. Control is Remedy’s new sandbox-style, gameplay-driven experience that I’m personally really looking forward to (I also liked Quantum Break with its time travel concept).



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Thursday news:

Sega now considers Yakuza a multi-platform series
https://www.pcgamer.com/sega-now-considers-yakuza-a-multi-platform-series/
Yakuza's arrival on PC has been a welcome one, and we've very much embraced Kiryu and his pals as they brawl, date and dance their way through Kamurocho. With three Yakuza games out on Steam, Sega now considers it a multi-platform series, though it's not ready to make any firm announcements about future games.

Commandos 2 and Praetorians HD remasters announced
https://www.pcgamer.com/commandos-2-and-praetorians-hd-remasters-announced/
Commandos 2, one of the best strategy games of the early '00s, is getting the remaster treatment. The titular squad will once again be flung behind enemy lines during World War 2, tasked with sneaking into bases, airfields and occupied cities to slit throats, steal plans and play dress-up.
>> **Fingers crossed they give them away for free to the owners of the original games**

Bungie is 'absolutely' interested in Destiny 2 cross-play, but not for awhile yet
https://www.pcgamer.com/bungie-is-absolutely-interested-in-destiny-2-cross-play-but-not-for-awhile-yet/
Bungie confirmed in last week's big Shadowkeep announcement that cross-save—the ability to carry one player account across multiple platforms—is coming to Destiny 2. Yesterday, Destiny general manager Mark Noseworthy said that Bungie is also very interested in implementing cross-play—enabling people on different platforms to actually play together—but that's something for further down the road.

Jedi: Fallen Order won't let you dismember people with your lightsaber
https://www.pcgamer.com/jedi-fallen-order-wont-let-you-dismember-people-with-your-lightsaber/
Look, I get it. I might be a monster for loving that the original Star Wars Jedi Knight games let you occasionally hack the limbs off of enemies. It only happened rarely (unless you used cheats), but it was a gruesome reminder that even Jedi, for all their talk of control and peace, wield horrifically violent laser swords capable of doing catastrophic bodily harm. So I find it disappointing that Respawn's Jedi: Fallen Order is taking a decidedly PG-rated approach to combat.

Watch 20 minutes of Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 gameplay
https://www.pcgamer.com/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2-gameplay-footage-e3-2019/
"It looks messy, but in that sense it's a faithful sequel," PC Gamer editor Phil Savage told me after his 20 minute preview of Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2, which you can watch above.
The game is in pre-alpha, so everything may be subject to change (like those dance moves at the beginning, maybe), but what we got to see of Seattle looks promising in a few ways.

Cyberpunk 2077 art criticized as transphobic is meant to reflect corporate exploitation, says the artist
https://www.pcgamer.com/cyberpunk-2077-art-criticized-as-transphobic-is-meant-to-reflect-corporate-exploitation-says-the-artist/
Cyberpunk 2077 studio CD Projekt Red has responded to criticism of an ad in the game that features a possibly transgender model promoting a fictional drink "with 16 flavors you'd love to mix," under the words "Mix it up." The image was widely—but not universally—criticized as being transphobic. "It reeks of fetishism," one commenter said in a ResetEra thread.
>> There's always people that will complain about everything.

Get free Hearthstone card packs for watching the Masters Tour Las Vegas this weekend
https://www.pcgamer.com/get-free-hearthstone-card-packs-for-watching-the-masters-tour-las-vegas-this-weekend/
Blizzard is bringing back Twitch Drops for this weekend's Hearthstone Masters Tour Las Vegas event, and that means free cards for you. Watch three total (not consecutive) hours of Masters Tour Las Vegas action this weekend and you'll get a free Rise of Shadows card pack; watch six hours and you'll get two packs. And on top of that, Blizzard will also hand out Classic card packs to 1500 eligible viewers every hour during the event.

Todd Howard says his main regret about Fallout 76 is not having a free beta
https://www.pcgamer.com/todd-howard-says-his-main-regret-about-fallout-76-is-not-having-a-free-beta/
Speaking to GameSpot at E3, Bethesda's Todd Howard was asked if he had any regrets about how Bethesda communicated the idea of Fallout 76 to players before the game's launch back in November of 2018.

Gears Tactics is still in development, despite not appearing at E3 2019
https://www.pcgamer.com/gears-tactics-is-still-in-development-despite-not-appearing-at-e3-2019/
Never fear: Gears Tactics, the tactical Gears of War offshoot revealed at E3 2018, is still in development. While it wasn't shown during Microsoft's press conference earlier this week, Gears of War producer Rod Fergusson has confirmed the game hasn't been abandoned.

California is investigating Riot Games over gender discrimination
https://www.pcgamer.com/california-is-investigating-riot-games-over-gender-discrimination/
The California Department of Fair Employment and Housing has been investigating allegations of gender discrimination, assault and harassment at League of Legends developer Riot Games. On Wednesday, the department announced it was filing an investigation enforcement suit against the developer to compel it to cooperate with the DFEH's investigation.

Half of Watch Dogs Legion's weapons are non-lethal
https://www.pcgamer.com/half-of-watch-dog-legions-weapons-are-non-lethal/
One of the weirdest parts of previous Watch Dogs games was how poorly it reconciled being a civilian-turned-hacker-hero who also was totally okay with casually murdering just about anyone. Watch Dogs 2 tried to rectify this by adding a paintball gun in a free update along with two non-lethal weapons added in a later paid DLC, but those options still left you with a limited arsenal. Thankfully, half of the weapons you can use in the upcoming Watch Dogs Legion will be non-lethal, according to its creator director.

There are no dogs in Watch Dogs Legion because Ubisoft didn't want sad, stray dogs everywhere
https://www.pcgamer.com/there-are-no-dogs-in-watch-dogs-legion-because-ubisoft-didnt-want-sad-stray-dogs-everywhere/
Despite the name possibly implying that there'd be thousands of them, there are no dogs in Watch Dogs Legion. That's because, according to creative director Clint Hocking, Ubisoft's programmers would then have to deal with what happens to the poor animals after you inevitably murder their owners.

Watch Dogs Legion's London setting was picked before the Brexit vote
https://www.pcgamer.com/watch-dogs-legion-settled-on-london-before-the-brexit-vote/
London seems like a good fit for Watch Dogs Legion's dystopian vision of the near future, especially now, when the whole country is divided, angry and exhausted. But it turns out that, while Brexit might have informed some of the story or decisions Ubisoft made about the game, the choice of location was made before Brexit was all we could talk about.

Starbase comes with its own programming language
https://www.pcgamer.com/starbase-comes-with-its-own-programming-language/
Starbase, the sandbox space MMO, is becoming more tantalising with every new feature trailer. The latest, introducing Starbase's programming language, YOLOL, is a bit intimidating, but all I want to do now is start experimenting. Check out the overview video above to see how it works.

Bloodroots is a wild mix of Hotline Miami and Samurai Jack
https://www.pcgamer.com/bloodroots-is-a-wild-mix-of-hotline-miami-and-samurai-jack/
Bloodroots feels incredible to play. A minute in and I'm laughing my arse off as I send murderous protagonist Mr. Wolf leaping around a village, ricocheting wagon wheels off surprised villains, firing myself out of cannons and battering baddies with fish. 15 minutes in and I'm convinced it's one of the best action games I've played this year.



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JEMC said:
EricHiggin said:

Correct, but do you really think Nvidia would put much effort into the cut down gaming versions if they basically had the entire gaming market to themselves, with Intel and AMD fighting for the last 5-10% of the market?

Well is RTX really worth it over the features that the RX 5700 series is bringing to the table? RTX is extra, and what's going to become the next big thing in the future, but how often has Radeon provided extra capability that would be useful down the road, especially as drivers mature and devs take advantage of it, yet it didn't really do much for them for some odd reason.

Radeon can continue to put up a decent fight and continue to lose, or make bank and lose, and hope Nvidia pulls an Intel so they can get their foot back in the door due to a lot of angry gamers and worthy future tech and good will from Radeon. I don't blame AMD because while they're making their CPU comeback, they are just getting started with the GPU's now, but don't have the same luxury with Nvidia that they did with Intel.

It is understandable, which is part of the problem. When long time buyers of your brand who aren't what you would call hardcore, finally switch, and who and are content with the change, that's really bad news. I'm sure AMD knows this, and is probably a big part of the reason for the higher prices. If you're only going to stagnate at best, if not continue to lose market share, yet again, you might as well price gouge while you can.

Maybe in the future AMD will have to become the go to CPU brand with some GPU capability, and Intel will have to go head to head with Nvidia and have CPU's to sell as well.

What I'm saying is that the tactic of letting go their GPU business hoping to find a breakthrough and/or a mistake from the competition to make a come back is extremely risky and failed by nature. It's a miracle they've been able to do that in the CPU front, but to expect the same feat to repeat again is wishful thinking. AMD needs to keep fighting and trying their best to hold a chance.

Just look at the RTX cards you mentioned. They use MSoft's raytracing, but they also use propietary tech like Nvidia always does. We need AMD to keep in the fight to prevent Nvidia's propietary tech to become the de facto industry standard, just like they avoided G-Sync to dominate the market.

Oh, and let's not fool ourselves, Intel will come back. Yes, they've been slacking and focusing on low power to try to beat ARM, but they're still a powerhouse with very deep pockets and will launch a competitive product sooner rather than later.

I get what you're saying for the most part, but Lisa isn't running AMD like it was in the past. She doesn't want the company to be seen as second best, as the value option. She wants to be seen as the market leader in terms of performance, she's just using pricing right now to help them get back into the game with their CPU's, and it's working. You can bet if Ryzen didn't take back much market share, that when Zen+ launched, the prices would have gone up more, and even more with Zen 2 now. The only reason the prices have stayed so low is because it's working and they're gaining back market share and mind share.

If the GPU market isn't going to work like that for AMD, which it hasn't, then they might as well sell at higher prices and make as much money as they can that way. Gamers sure want AMD to keep pushing out reasonable price vs performance Radeon cards, but Lisa doesn't want to be seen as that type of brand anymore. She wants to be the next Nvidia as well. After trying your best and constantly being passed up for GeForce, even though your cards are much better bang for your buck, is going to get really tiring and old. How do gamers expect AMD to be able to at least match GeForce and offer cheaper cards, if the money Radeon brings in is just a tiny portion of what GeForce does due to sales and margins? Obviously AMD bet the company on CPU's, and that took away from the Radeon budget big time, and led to the miracle of Ryzen luckily, partially due to Intel being asleep at the wheel. Now they are supposed to do the same with Nvidia even though they are hydrated and focused like an F1 driver?

If AMD is smart, and Nvidia is really that greedy, AMD will use this 5700 pricing against Nvidia. Now that the price of the 2000 series doesn't really have to drop anymore because of the 5700 pricing, even though it should, if Nvidia launches the Super series, and just increases the prices for those cards, it would and should look really bad on them. If AMD is really smart, they will then immediately drop the pricing of the 5700 series by $50 to $100, basically forcing Nvidia to drop the pricing of the regular 2000 series by the same amount. However, Nvidia won't drop the price of their newly launched Super series, and even if gamers don't buy the 5700, they will buy the regular 2000 cards instead, which won't be good news for the brand new Super series sales. This will hurt Nvidia's image as well as stock price, which have both taken hits already over the last year.

For all we know, AMD's ray tracing tech may be much better than Nvidia and will allow them to take over the performance crown, and based on the existing GPU market, AMD could make a killing in terms of profits if this plays out. Just imagine if there is a 5800 and/or 5900 series yet to come. It's also very well possible that AMD may not take the performance crown from Nvidia, but might just go toe to toe again, year after year, in which case they can just remain $50 cheaper at all times. For the low to mid range gamers, they can buy the Intel GPU's supposedly coming out next year.

Intel will come back in terms of CPU's, but based on the past, they don't always come out with newer better tech than the competition. Not to mention that AMD is making seriously good money already, and will just increase that with Zen 2, and likely for another few years anyway. Under Lisa, you can bet they aren't slacking on Ryzen's future, and odds are good that they're already planning beyond that, knowing Intel is no doubt planning a competitive return.