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System sellers?

Heck yes! 176 37.37%
 
One or two is, yes 115 24.42%
 
Combined those games does look impressive... 62 13.16%
 
I'm not convinced... 51 10.83%
 
I doubt it... 28 5.94%
 
God no!! 32 6.79%
 
rezzzzz cuzz I'm boooring 6 1.27%
 
Total:470
Stefan.De.Machtige on 14 June 2013
DanneSandin said:
Conegamer said:
If 3D Mario, Wii Fit/Party and DK aren't system sellers, then I don't know what are.

And Pikmin, Zelda, W101 and 3rd party titles can only help.

The question is how any people sees SM3DW as a proper 3D Mario... I know I don't...



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JWeinCom on 14 June 2013
hsrob said:
JWeinCom said:
I'm really confused. I guess that everyone here has done extensive research and has some logical basis for determining that sequels to games that have sold 7-10 million copies (Mario 3D World), 8 million copies (Wii Party), 20 million copies (Wii Fit), and 6 million copies are not system sellers, yet sequels to games that sold 1.5-2.6 million (Infamous), 1.5-5.5 million (Forza), 2-2.5 million (Dead Rising), 3 to 2.5 million (Killzone) are system sellers. I'm sure you guys have done a hell of a job with marketing research to determine this fact that seems to fly in the face of common sense. Right?

Those games were all exclusively purchased by people that already owned a Wii, so while they are obviously popular they are not system sellers.

Oh cool!  So I assume you've interviewed people and found out what factors made them decide to buy a Wii.  Because absolutely none of the 40 million people who bought Wii Fit or Wii Fit Plus bought the Wii to play those games.Nope nope nope.  Those didn't factor into the decision at all.

As far as I could tell from this thread, Wii Sports was the only reason anyone ever bought a Wii.  Wii Sports, Mario Kart, and Xenoblade.  Those were the only three system sellers, and no other game made any impact on sales. 

Yet, apparently every gamer who bought Killzone bought a PS3 just to play that.



DanneSandin on 14 June 2013
RolStoppable said:
The second half of the year is looking good for the Wii U. Throw in a price cut and you have at least a somewhat appealing product already, in both single- and multiplayer content. The biggest obstacle is the Gamepad, but it's not possible to remove that thing, just like 3D had to stay with the 3DS.

If Nintendo can't beat the X1 and PS4 this holiday, then the system has no hope left.

I have to agree with you here.



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Augen on 14 June 2013

All combined be okay, but to me a price drop do more than any individual game at this point.



HikenNoAce on 14 June 2013
JWeinCom said:
I'm really confused. I guess that everyone here has done extensive research and has some logical basis for determining that sequels to games that have sold 7-10 million copies (Mario 3D World), 8 million copies (Wii Party), 20 million copies (Wii Fit), and 6 million copies are not system sellers, yet sequels to games that sold 1.5-2.6 million (Infamous), 1.5-5.5 million (Forza), 2-2.5 million (Dead Rising), 3 to 2.5 million (Killzone) are system sellers. I'm sure you guys have done a hell of a job with marketing research to determine this fact that seems to fly in the face of common sense. Right?


Have a look at the sales of Nintendogs and Brain Age on 3DS. Have a look at the sales of NSMBWiiU as well. Being a sequel of a top seller guarantees nothing.



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DanneSandin on 14 June 2013
JWeinCom said:
I'm really confused. I guess that everyone here has done extensive research and has some logical basis for determining that sequels to games that have sold 7-10 million copies (Mario 3D World), 8 million copies (Wii Party), 20 million copies (Wii Fit), and 6 million copies are not system sellers, yet sequels to games that sold 1.5-2.6 million (Infamous), 1.5-5.5 million (Forza), 2-2.5 million (Dead Rising), 3 to 2.5 million (Killzone) are system sellers. I'm sure you guys have done a hell of a job with marketing research to determine this fact that seems to fly in the face of common sense. Right?

The thing is that the Wii-series (party, fit, sports etc) sold to a very specific demographic that's more or less gone from Nintendo atm, and I wonder if 3DWorld is enough to convince people to buy a Wii U. And we're not comparing Wii U's system sellers with PS4's; personally I feel like PS4's line up is quite lack luster...



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DanneSandin on 14 June 2013
DeadlyCatalyst said:
OnlyOptional said:

It is a strong holiday lineup this year. It goes Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, Retro's DKC:Tropical Freeze, Wii Fit U, Wii U Party, TZoZ Windwaker and the 3D Mario game itself, Super Mario 3D World. If that isn't a good showing, I don't know what is.
Plus some 3rd party titles that won't sell a system but they help.

This times a million. Honestly, if Infamous and Killzone are going to be system sellers (both series having sold 10 million copies world wide) why doesn't a 3D mario gae fit the bill? 3D Land sold 10 million on its own. Galaxy sold 10 million, galaxy 2 sold like 6 or 7 million. DK sold 6 million.

I don't care if this gets me banned, but if you think these games won't sell the system you are a fucking idiot. I usually don't do this but I am so fucking sick of people doubting the wiiu and its games. Turn that little light in your brain on that fucking allows you to think using logic. Mario and a 3D Zelda Remake helped revitilise 3DS sales yet WW HD and 3D World? wtf?! stop being a fucking nintendo doubter/hater just for fucking because!  I'm Out.

 

*Throws the mic*

 

Once again a large fuck you to people who shit on Nintendo games for being uninspired. The shit you play is probably less innovative than shit on a stick. Im tired of these threads anyways. The internet is so fucking depressing. Being a gamer is no longer fun. i dont know how you can read shit like what JazzDipshit10120 can say and not want to reach into your computer and give him a smack upside the head for having such a dumb opinion.  

 

Bye bye now :)

 

Moderated - Kresnik.

Had you been polite I would have answered, but I won't bother now.



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sensebringer on 14 June 2013

At $350 for the deluxe version nothing will be a system seller. At $250, Super Mario 3d World, DKTF AND NSMB U will be system sellers.



JWeinCom on 14 June 2013
HikenNoAce said:
JWeinCom said:
I'm really confused. I guess that everyone here has done extensive research and has some logical basis for determining that sequels to games that have sold 7-10 million copies (Mario 3D World), 8 million copies (Wii Party), 20 million copies (Wii Fit), and 6 million copies are not system sellers, yet sequels to games that sold 1.5-2.6 million (Infamous), 1.5-5.5 million (Forza), 2-2.5 million (Dead Rising), 3 to 2.5 million (Killzone) are system sellers. I'm sure you guys have done a hell of a job with marketing research to determine this fact that seems to fly in the face of common sense. Right?


Have a look at the sales of Nintendogs and Brain Age on 3DS. Have a look at the sales of NSMBWiiU as well. Being a sequel of a top seller guarantees nothing.


I can't look at the brain age sales, because they don't exist.  I'm inclined to believe that the game sold more than 14,000 units.  I'm also inclined to believe that the game actually launched in the US and Europe.

As for Nintendogs and NSMB U, both of those were launch titles on consoles that struggled.  Nintendogs was barely a sequel, and it sold pretty decently.  It actually sold more than Killzone, Infamous, Dead Rising, etc.  As for NSMBU, that's been discussed so many times I have nothing to add to the conversation.  If you're of the opinion that NSMBU should have inspired gamers to spend 410 dollars and the lack of other content on the Wii U has nothing to do with the game's sales, then more power to you.

I'm not going to say that these figures are great for Nintendo, but they're a few examples picked out, and there are other examples that contradict them.  Animal Crossing's huge success in Japan, the sales of Super Mario 3D Land, and Mario Kart 7(each of which is outpacing Mario Kart DS), the sales of Mario games in general, etc.  



DieAppleDie on 14 June 2013

all of them are!!!