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superchunk said:
This is all you need to consider.

WiiU = $300 to $350.
XBone = $500 + $60(Live).
PS4 = $400 + $60(PS+).
PC = $700 to $2000 +$60(controller).

Any more is bullshit and unnecessary for comparison.

Games' price tag isn't bullshit imo. The 700-2000 PC price tag can be easily offset by the amount of games a person buys per year. Say ~10 games a year. ~50 games across 5 years. That's a total of 500 discount on games alone. Even with a 1000 dollar PC, which will get you a very decent Game-PC, that will still put you below the total costs of the PS4 with 5 years of PS+ and 50 games.



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PC online play it should say fee's apply on a per game bases.
PC Second screen has multiple options.
PC Motion controls has multiple options.

PS4 has a removable HDD so you can upgrade storage as you see fit. 1.5 - 2TB = $130 - 180
PS4 uses tablets and smartphones for second screen as well.
PS4 should have Move + PS4CAM for additional controllers + motion.



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Baron said:
superchunk said:
This is all you need to consider.

WiiU = $300 to $350.
XBone = $500 + $60(Live).
PS4 = $400 + $60(PS+).
PC = $700 to $2000 +$60(controller).

Any more is bullshit and unnecessary for comparison.

Games' price tag isn't bullshit imo. The 700-2000 PC price tag can be easily offset by the amount of games a person buys per year. Say ~10 games a year. ~50 games across 5 years. That's a total of 500 discount on games alone. Even with a 1000 dollar PC, which will get you a very decent Game-PC, that will still put you below the total costs of the PS4 with 5 years of PS+ and 50 games.

Game price can't alwasy be looked at as the starting price tho. I almost never buy a game at full price. I wait for sales or buy used nearly all the time.



Baron said:
superchunk said:
This is all you need to consider.

WiiU = $300 to $350.
XBone = $500 + $60(Live).
PS4 = $400 + $60(PS+).
PC = $700 to $2000 +$60(controller).

Any more is bullshit and unnecessary for comparison.

Games' price tag isn't bullshit imo. The 700-2000 PC price tag can be easily offset by the amount of games a person buys per year. Say ~10 games a year. ~50 games across 5 years. That's a total of 500 discount on games alone. Even with a 1000 dollar PC, which will get you a very decent Game-PC, that will still put you below the total costs of the PS4 with 5 years of PS+ and 50 games.

And like i have mentioned before that advantage is offset by all the free games you get with PS Plus and Live Gold.



superchunk said:
This is all you need to consider.

WiiU = $300 to $350.
XBone = $500 + $60(Live).
PS4 = $400 + $60(PS+).
PC = $700 to $2000 +$60(controller).

Any more is bullshit and unnecessary for comparison.


PS+ is 50. Not 60.



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There are lots of ways to compare this, and superchunks reductionist method is one. Even in the reductionist method though the gap between console and entry level gaming PC is very small this time around. PC components are cheaper and even Intel HD4000 can get you a decent but not cutting edge gaming experience (L4D2 beta runs very nicely 50 fps in 720p on an Intel HD4000 under steam linux).

Cost of games is one thing I did not figure in. I know that I spend a lot on console games, I usually get them day one through downloading them and pay about 60 per game. On steam I have picked up 94 games for under $300 through sales, HIB, and buying older games, AAA titles on release day are still cheaper than what I pay for a day one WiiU release.

Free games are great and can defray the cost of the pay to play online features of consoles, if they are games you want.

For the record although I won't buy an XBone because I don't like the parent corp, some of the games did look very good at E3. The PS4 I am waiting a while yet before I decide whether or not to get one. I do own a WiiU with all the accessories, and have a linux steambox running though I don't have their hardware. There is a rumour that the alienware X51 is min spec for the steambox which is why they are now shipping linux versions of it.



HikenNoAce said:
Zkuq said:
HikenNoAce said:
TC, add the cost of games for the PC. PS4 will get PS4 games for free.

Not even nearly all of them. Also, PC games are cheaper than console games. Besides, the cost of games is not something you mention specifically; What you mention is if you somehow save from games. I suppose you could mention the price of games in the chart and then maybe add a note that PS4 gets some games for free from PS+.


Depends on them. Some of them are the same price. Others are marginally cheaper.

Most of them are cheaper. $50 is the most common price for retail PC games, and some are even cheaper than that. On the other hand, I don't recall seeing retail console titles launch at less than $60 unless there's something that clearly makes them less valuable (expansion pack style games, HD collections, etc.). Don't some console titles even retail at $70? And even if they don't in physical stores, they more and more often do so in download services.



superchunk said:
This is all you need to consider.

WiiU = $300 to $350.
XBone = $500 + $60(Live).
PS4 = $400 + $60(PS+).
PC = $700 to $2000 +$60(controller).

Any more is bullshit and unnecessary for comparison.

You don't really need a controller for a PC and even if you do buy one, I can pretty much guarantee you won't have to pay $60 for it. No licensing fees on PC, see. Also, XBL and PS+ really need to be counter several times, considering you're likely to end up subscribing for several years and not just one.

superchunk said:
Baron said:
superchunk said:
This is all you need to consider.

WiiU = $300 to $350.
XBone = $500 + $60(Live).
PS4 = $400 + $60(PS+).
PC = $700 to $2000 +$60(controller).

Any more is bullshit and unnecessary for comparison.

Games' price tag isn't bullshit imo. The 700-2000 PC price tag can be easily offset by the amount of games a person buys per year. Say ~10 games a year. ~50 games across 5 years. That's a total of 500 discount on games alone. Even with a 1000 dollar PC, which will get you a very decent Game-PC, that will still put you below the total costs of the PS4 with 5 years of PS+ and 50 games.

Game price can't alwasy be looked at as the starting price tho. I almost never buy a game at full price. I wait for sales or buy used nearly all the time.

Yeah, and PC has undeniably the best sales.



medium pc rig 700$+ the first year and you had 200$ every 2 years for the first 4 years so 400$ plus an other 700$ for your new medium rig 4 years from now



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One more thing to consider given the new AMD and Intel processors is that the integrated graphics are begining to be a viable entry level gaming option. The Hasswell Iris Pro for example is better than PS3/360 performance at no extra cost making the PC more compelling.

Next year the broadwell intel chipset will be capable of running games like Skyrim at high settings and 1080p with playable frame rates. Plus they can do 4k output for video and handle multiple monitors.

Even on the mobile SoC side of things this next gen won't age very well in comparison, by 2015 the NVIDIA parker chip (terga successor) with it's denver/maxwell architecture will make consoles look fairly sad in comparison. I think this may be a bigger threat to consoles than PC gaming... a tablet that gives you better than XBox one graphics.