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silentdj151 on 12 June 2013

You are missing the point, the point of kinect is to help sell media hub device, it is marketing gimmick for the masses.

I own a xbox 360 with Kinect and I use it video chat and occasionally play a kinect game.  Guess what when I am not using it I can turn it off or disconnect it from the system completely and the 360 willl still function.

Would I recommend kinect to friend or relative for xbox 360 the answer is no.

I am guessing you would, but please respond.

I will probably buy an xbox one but not at launch.




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nightsurge on 12 June 2013
kitler53 said:
nightsurge said:
silentdj151 said:
This whole DRM is blessing in disguise for Microsoft. Come on people real issue is Kinect always on and system will not work without it. They will have remove that or realease another SKU if they have any chance of success with XBOX ONE.

The only people who still worry about Kinect always on are conspiracy theorists or completely missed MS explaining all the customizing and disabling options... it does not pose a threat to anyone's privacy any more than a webcam on a laptop does.

They require it connected because it is an input type that is fully integrated with the console. Do you complain about not being able to disable a controller as an input device? No, because that would be silly :)

if you're paying any attention to the NSA scandel you'd know that the US governement has given themselves legal right to access communication regardless of privacy policies and that MS was one of the first partners of the NSA.  so "no more than a webcam" is sort of a loaded statement..

sorry, but i do NOT trust the us government right now with respect to privacy.


Oh I don't trust them either. But Kinect data is no more at risk than any other form of communication data so I don't think it should be targeted over any other device.



nightsurge on 12 June 2013
silentdj151 said:

You are missing the point, the point of kinect is to help sell media hub device, it is marketing gimmick for the masses.

I own a xbox 360 with Kinect and I use it video chat and occasionally play a kinect game.  Guess what when I am not using it I can turn it off or disconnect it from the system completely and the 360 willl still function.

Would I recommend kinect to friend or relative for xbox 360 the answer is no.

I am guessing you would, but please respond.

I will probably buy an xbox one but not at launch.

You can do the same with Xbox One's Kinect. All except for disconnect it entirely.

It is a motion control method, not just some media gimmick.

I would only recommend it to a friend I knew was interested in motion control to begin with. Or I would have them try it out on my setup first.



arcelonious on 12 June 2013

I personally want Microsoft to go back on their decision of turning retail discs into installation discs. Keep retail discs the same way that they are on other consoles (i.e., disc is required to play games, instead of online checks, restricted used game retailers, etc.), and just offer day one digital to those who want games stored completely on the hard drive (along with the sharing abilities that MS has talked about). Of course, I'm no techie so I don't know how feasible it is for Microsoft to change that direction with their console.



yo_john117 on 12 June 2013

They really should have done the registration thing (where the disc becomes linked to your account if you do register it but you get all the benefits of cloud) and not done the online check thing.



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silentdj151 on 12 June 2013
nightsurge 2 minutes ago
silentdj151 said:

You are missing the point, the point of kinect is to help sell media hub device, it is marketing gimmick for the masses.

I own a xbox 360 with Kinect and I use it video chat and occasionally play a kinect game.  Guess what when I am not using it I can turn it off or disconnect it from the system completely and the 360 willl still function.

Would I recommend kinect to friend or relative for xbox 360 the answer is no.

I am guessing you would, but please respond.

I will probably buy an xbox one but not at launch.

You can do the same with Xbox One's Kinect. All except for disconnect it entirely.

It is a motion control method, not just some media gimmick.

I would only recommend it to a friend I knew was interested in motion control to begin with. Or I would have them try it out on my setup first.

Have fun showing off your xbox One make sure to tell friends that it always needs to be connected to internet and that the kinect is always on even when you disable it.  Those are all great selling points...just admit it Microsoft has let the Xbox 360 success to go their heads and missed the boat on xbox one.   

 



foodfather on 12 June 2013

You certainly have some good suggestions. If used games are hindered by this check in system, then the check in system should be a choice made by the individual. Do you to solely keep the game, or simply play it for now and sell it later.

Great idea OP.



silentdj151 on 12 June 2013

I can deal with the future of digital only...not a big problem if I want to play mike tysons punch out, I go play it on a emulator on my pc or phone. I am sure someone in the future will have a work around for the xbox one, what I can't deal with is being forced to buy a bundled accessory without another sku option...so no purchase for me at launch



WagnerPaiva on 12 June 2013

If I need the disc, why do I have too install it?
You know what? I don´t care anymore!
Make me dance the Marcarena to play your games, make me recite the Sumerian alphabet, make me do a blood sacrifice, make me suck a donkey dick, I just don´t want it anymore.

I will play my old 360 offline, my PS3 and PS4 online and my weird handhelds (3DS and Vita).

Stick your crazy policies somewherelse MICROSOFT, see you on the next next genn, and you better have changed. =/



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

nightsurge on 12 June 2013
silentdj151 said:
nightsurge 2 minutes ago
silentdj151 said:

You are missing the point, the point of kinect is to help sell media hub device, it is marketing gimmick for the masses.

I own a xbox 360 with Kinect and I use it video chat and occasionally play a kinect game.  Guess what when I am not using it I can turn it off or disconnect it from the system completely and the 360 willl still function.

Would I recommend kinect to friend or relative for xbox 360 the answer is no.

I am guessing you would, but please respond.

I will probably buy an xbox one but not at launch.

You can do the same with Xbox One's Kinect. All except for disconnect it entirely.

It is a motion control method, not just some media gimmick.

I would only recommend it to a friend I knew was interested in motion control to begin with. Or I would have them try it out on my setup first.

Have fun showing off your xbox One make sure to tell friends that it always needs to be connected to internet and that the kinect is always on even when you disable it.  Those are all great selling points...just admit it Microsoft has let the Xbox 360 success to go their heads and missed the boat on xbox one.   

 

Well the purpose of this thread is the hope that MS will offer a change similar to the OP so it wouldn't be always online required.

Either way, that's exactly the info I would tell them. Minus the "Kinect Always On" thing. That's not true and misleading. It is off/disabled. It only listens for one command in order to turn it back on (which makes perfect sense).

I'm sure most of my friends would not be bothered by the internet requirement because they all use the internet throughout their homes constantly already. The ones I would recommend the Xbox One to are the ones I already play with online on Xbox 360 or PS3 or PC. If I knew they lived in the country with no broadband access and no smartphone with 3G/4G access, I wouldn't recommend the Xbox One to them (unless MS gives gamers a choice like the OP suggests).