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Microsoft: A compromise for those against your "check-in" and disc-based policies

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Is this an acceptable compromise?

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You still have to go online the first time you install the game to check if the game has not been locked to an account. That still defeats the purpose of pure off-line play.

Your hurdle can be solved by letting the second install undo the first one. Say you've conveniently forgotten you had registered your game to your account. When who ever you sold the disc to starts the game up for the first time, it will be removed from your account. (of course then you can sell it back to a store and still enjoy the game until it has been resold)

Either way, online check when installing is still required.



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You should have 3 options:

1. No internet - Game can't register because of no internet. Game can't be played without disc in drive. Since game is not registered, it retains it's serial code. No on demand version or share with family.
2. Have internet - Don't want to register, you don't have to. Game can't be played without disc in drive. Won't have access to on demand version and share with family. Disc retains serial code.
3. Have internet - Want to register game. Get on demand version and share with family features added. Serial is registered to your account. If disc isn't in drive, you get 24 hour check and 1 hour check on friend's Xbox One. If disc is in disc drive, Xbox One no longer checks for ownership online.







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Goatseye said:
gooch_destroyer said:
Microsoft is a software company right? They can choose to undo it if they please...but that interview with Don Mattrick though....

Do you have a link for that interview?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTAKSBvuT-A

Geoff Keighley had an interview with Don Mattrick (recorded pre conference) - here are some excerpts:


Keighley:"Did you know or did you anticipate the way the people would push back?"
Mattrick:"Absolutely - it's a super passionate community of people... till you use it [Xbox One] it's really hard to understand what all the advantages are."
________________________________________________________

Mattrick: "Xbox has been created by gamers for gamers."
________________________________________________________

Mattrick: "Fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity, it's called xbox 360"
________________________________________________________

Mattrick: "The avarage internet connection is working the majority of the day - people are imagining that it isn't... It's change. There was a point in time when people would say all i want my phone to do is make a phonecall."

I got this from Neogaf



nightsurge said:

A potential hurdle:

Customers buying the games on craigslist or locally direct from a private seller would not have a guarantee that the disc was not registered, unless MS has some way of marking the disc after being registered.

What do you think? If MS gave you the choice of either a disc-based setup (which would always require the disc to play the game, would exclude the cloud benefits of sharing with friends and access anywhere) or the currently announced setup where everything requires a connection to the internet at least 24 hours, would that be acceptible to those of you opposed to their current strategy?


They should put the serial number of the disc on the iner part of the disc along with a qr code. Then you can go on xbox.com to check if the serial has been registered. If you want to sell your game through a private sale, they should let you go on your account and unregister the game from your account. Charge a $5 fee, which gets wired to the developer. If you want to gift the game to someone, they have to be on your friends list for 30 days. Then you do a transfer of ownership from the website or console. There will no fee for that.







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Problem with that interview though is that they're not really supporting the 360.
People right now are looking for the next thing.
A solution to that isn't "try the old thing", it's how can we make this work?

The situation regarding streaming and access could be very easily solved by simply making the games much cheaper or not charging to play them online. If there was no live charge and games were only 45-50 dollars this really wouldn't be much of an issue. The steam model works because of the entire model. You can't just take half of that and say its ok.



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These cocky bastards deserve for their console to suffer a major loss against N and S so they can respect gamers across the globe.



Do you have fun playing a console different than mine?

DON'T!!!

pbroy said:

You should have 3 options:

1. No internet - Game can't register because of no internet. Game can't be played without disc in drive. Since game is not registered, it retains it's serial code. No on demand version or share with family.
2. Have internet - Don't want to register, you don't have to. Game can't be played without disc in drive. Won't have access to on demand version and share with family. Disc retains serial code.
3. Have internet - Want to register game. Get on demand version and share with family features added. Serial is registered to your account. If disc isn't in drive, you get 24 hour check and 1 hour check on friend's Xbox One. If disc is in disc drive, Xbox One no longer checks for ownership online.

This is what I was trying to get at with the OP and I believe would solve all their issues if they went this way. They have a few months to change their minds before units/games start shipping to stores, but only 2-3 maybe tops.

Here's hoping.

I really don't mind either way, but I know that having this option would win them a lot more love with consumers for this generation. Let next generation be all digital based where discs mean nothing.



gooch_destroyer said:
Goatseye said:
gooch_destroyer said:
Microsoft is a software company right? They can choose to undo it if they please...but that interview with Don Mattrick though....

Do you have a link for that interview?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTAKSBvuT-A

Geoff Keighley had an interview with Don Mattrick (recorded pre conference) - here are some excerpts:


Keighley:"Did you know or did you anticipate the way the people would push back?"
Mattrick:"Absolutely - it's a super passionate community of people... till you use it [Xbox One] it's really hard to understand what all the advantages are."
________________________________________________________

Mattrick: "Xbox has been created by gamers for gamers."
________________________________________________________

Mattrick: "Fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity, it's called xbox 360"
________________________________________________________

Mattrick: "The avarage internet connection is working the majority of the day - people are imagining that it isn't... It's change. There was a point in time when people would say all i want my phone to do is make a phonecall."

I got this from Neogaf

See, I'm still thinking there have to be some TANGIBLE benefits to this for gamers that haven't been communicated yet.  The future is always give and take (cartridges never had loading screens but CD's did and we HATED it), but so far we haven't seen enough 'give' in this from MS yet.  What ARE the advantages?  Knowing those would help, but I still think the core gaming community is too vengeful to change it's tune if those advantages really are awesome ...



bananaking21 said:
bonkers555 said:
bananaking21 said:
or you know... just buy a ps4?

No, I know 3 friends in the real world would rather choose PC over the PS4 route including my self.

I really hope the backlash fuck them over so bad that they change back to the good ol days within a year.

well in that case just get a WiiU

But what about games???



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

@bonkers

Hold on...I'm confused about ur comment on not wanting a ps4 bc of ur sig...

Why ps3 but not ps4?