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Osc89 on 19 May 2013
snowdog said:
Osc89 said:
snowdog said:
That guy has probably got the sack and won't work in the industry again.

As for EA their hissy fit will end before the end of the year when shareholders demand that the publisher doesn't ignore a console that's going to be the market leader for a while. By the end of this year I'm expecting the Wii U to have an installed userbase over 10m, and the PS4 and 720 lucky to have an installed userbase of 2m each at the most. It's going to take years for the PS4 and 720 to close that gap, if they manage to do it before the Wii 3 arrives at all.


Over 10m is quite ambitious, considering they will have to compete with PS4 and 720 on top of a possible cheaper 360 and PS3 with a new entry in their biggest franchise. And for PS4 and 720 to get more support, they only have to reach the Wii U total combined as they are (rumoured to be) very similar systems.



Not that ambitious when you consider the software that's on the way - Wii Fit, Pikmin 3, The Wonderful 101, Game & Wario, Wind Waker HD, 3D Mario and Mario Kart 8 should all be released before the end of the year.

It has an installed userbase of around 3m (?) so far, should do 3m between now and November and should easily do 4m+ from November until the end of the year assuming that 3D Mario and Mario Kart 8 are released in November.

And publishers will support it fine if it has a third of the marketshare thanks to Nintendo having a console with a standard rendering pipeline and an architecture very similar to the other two current gen consoles. It's going to be much easier for developers to port between the Wii U/PS4/720 than it currently is to port between the Wii U/PS3/360. And the difference in power between the Wii U and the other consoles isn't going to be that much of a problem either.

For some strange reason people seem to be thinking that the Wii U is going to continue selling at its current rate and that both the PS4 and 720 are not only going to do gangbusters at launch but will continue to do gangbusters into the launch window and beyond. It's not going to happen. Both the PS4 and 720 are going to be more expensive than the Wii U, certainly over $400 imo, and they're also going to be supply constrained. I personally can't see either one of them doing over 2m before the end of the year and for the first 4 or 5 months of the year sales are going to go right downhill because nobody has any cash to spare after Christmas.

If the Wii U does over 10m, the PS4 under 2m and the 720 under 2m even EA are going to change their tune with regards to Wii U support otherwise shareholders will go apeshit.


I'm not sure how the Wii U can get another 3m between now and November. At the current rate of about 30k a week it will get about another 0.7m. It would have to start consistently beating the 360, something it hasn't been able to do even once. You'll probably see something like 1.5m.

And the 4m+ in the holidays? It seems more likely that the new games will cancel out with the increased competition, so it will probably be about the same.



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snowdog on 19 May 2013

It's all in the software that's on the way mate. Software sells hardware at the end of the day. Even if I'm a couple of million out you'll still have an installed userbase of 8m for the Wii U with the PS4 and 720 being lucky to have 2m each. That 6m gap is going to be difficult to close, particularly when they both have the obligatory software drought that's hit every console that's ever been released.

3D Mario and Mario Kart 8 in particular are going to give the Wii U a considerable sales boost.



PScollector on 19 May 2013

I've lost a lot of respect for EA as publisher over the past few years as they seem to be acting very unprofessional.



 

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small44 on 19 May 2013
Teriol said:

EA can suck my **** because their games suck FIFA is the worst Football soccer game PES is better.

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EA don't care about your point of view Fifa sold much more then PES.



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

wvelting on 19 May 2013
o_O.Q said:
first off this was not an official statement it was simply an individual employee tweeting ( with regards to the power comment he's a senior software engineer apparently so yeah i'd think he knows what he's talking about )

but regardless they've already stated that they are doing no further development on the wii u

...so why should they care?

besides the majority of nintendo fan posts i've seen with regards to EA in certain threads is how much EA doesn't matter to them so i really don't get what this uproar is about

Because as the OP said, you don't burn bridges, it's extremely bad business. 

As for me, I own all the systems and don't buy EA games as I dislike EA very much.  Also, owning all the systems, playing games on them all and taking into accounts what other developers have said, it's been put to rest that the Wii U is not less powerful than the PS360.  Anyone who says so it proving that they just have an axe to grind with Nintendo.  Besides, great power does not make for a great game.  I have a very high end PC and can tell you that while the next MS and Sony systems will almost certainly have better graphics than what the Wii U can do, it will be minimally better and nowhere near the difference seen between the Wii & PS360. 

I was plying the Wii on a SD tube tv the other day and couldn't believe how much better it looked on there than our 60" 1080P tv.  The Wii just was not meant to be played on a HD tv.  Graphically, the Wii U will have no problem holding it's own, something that the Wii could not do.



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Mr Khan on 19 May 2013
Osc89 said:
snowdog said:
Osc89 said:
snowdog said:
That guy has probably got the sack and won't work in the industry again.

As for EA their hissy fit will end before the end of the year when shareholders demand that the publisher doesn't ignore a console that's going to be the market leader for a while. By the end of this year I'm expecting the Wii U to have an installed userbase over 10m, and the PS4 and 720 lucky to have an installed userbase of 2m each at the most. It's going to take years for the PS4 and 720 to close that gap, if they manage to do it before the Wii 3 arrives at all.


Over 10m is quite ambitious, considering they will have to compete with PS4 and 720 on top of a possible cheaper 360 and PS3 with a new entry in their biggest franchise. And for PS4 and 720 to get more support, they only have to reach the Wii U total combined as they are (rumoured to be) very similar systems.



Not that ambitious when you consider the software that's on the way - Wii Fit, Pikmin 3, The Wonderful 101, Game & Wario, Wind Waker HD, 3D Mario and Mario Kart 8 should all be released before the end of the year.

It has an installed userbase of around 3m (?) so far, should do 3m between now and November and should easily do 4m+ from November until the end of the year assuming that 3D Mario and Mario Kart 8 are released in November.

And publishers will support it fine if it has a third of the marketshare thanks to Nintendo having a console with a standard rendering pipeline and an architecture very similar to the other two current gen consoles. It's going to be much easier for developers to port between the Wii U/PS4/720 than it currently is to port between the Wii U/PS3/360. And the difference in power between the Wii U and the other consoles isn't going to be that much of a problem either.

For some strange reason people seem to be thinking that the Wii U is going to continue selling at its current rate and that both the PS4 and 720 are not only going to do gangbusters at launch but will continue to do gangbusters into the launch window and beyond. It's not going to happen. Both the PS4 and 720 are going to be more expensive than the Wii U, certainly over $400 imo, and they're also going to be supply constrained. I personally can't see either one of them doing over 2m before the end of the year and for the first 4 or 5 months of the year sales are going to go right downhill because nobody has any cash to spare after Christmas.

If the Wii U does over 10m, the PS4 under 2m and the 720 under 2m even EA are going to change their tune with regards to Wii U support otherwise shareholders will go apeshit.


I'm not sure how the Wii U can get another 3m between now and November. At the current rate of about 30k a week it will get about another 0.7m. It would have to start consistently beating the 360, something it hasn't been able to do even once. You'll probably see something like 1.5m.

And the 4m+ in the holidays? It seems more likely that the new games will cancel out with the increased competition, so it will probably be about the same.

You really suggest that the other software will prevent Wii U software from having an impact on Wii U hardware sales?



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Max King of the Wild on 19 May 2013
EricFabian said:


3Ds already did 1mil in just one week


...thats.... nice...? wii u isnt the 3ds is it?



Osc89 on 19 May 2013
Mr Khan said:
Osc89 said:
I'm not sure how the Wii U can get another 3m between now and November. At the current rate of about 30k a week it will get about another 0.7m. It would have to start consistently beating the 360, something it hasn't been able to do even once. You'll probably see something like 1.5m.

And the 4m+ in the holidays? It seems more likely that the new games will cancel out with the increased competition, so it will probably be about the same.

You really suggest that the other software will prevent Wii U software from having an impact on Wii U hardware sales?


Definitely not other software. By increased competition I mean a possibly cheaper PS360 on top of PS4 and 720. I think they take will take a cut of the increases the Wii U would have seen with the improved software lineup. Ultimately I was trying to say that the 4m+ estimate is pretty ambitious, and it will probably be closer to the last Christmas sales.



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Lyrikalstylez on 19 May 2013

Why don't you guys blame your godly entity called Nintendo instead, they seem to not care or try to build up relations with 3rd party developers ..its their fault for sitting on their lazy ass and let this shit happen



EricFabian on 19 May 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
EricFabian said:


3Ds already did 1mil in just one week


...thats.... nice...? wii u isnt the 3ds is it?


no, but 3Ds had all the doom parties before Wii U and what we get now? A beast



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