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JayWood2010 said:
jacks81x said:
JayWood2010 said:

 



1. It's Infamous: Second Son

2. The Order: 1886 is being developed by Ready At Dawn, a 2nd party studio.  Santa Monica is publishing it.  

3. Quantic Dream's untitled PS4 title should also be listed.  While they're a 2nd party studio, Sony will be publishing the game, as they did with Heavy Rain and Beyond: Two Souls.

4. SCE San Diego has two teams.  One for sure will be working on MLB 14 The Show.  The other is rumored to be working on a new IP. 


1. Will fix

2. it is still something that they are working on.  

3. No.  That would be like me adding Ryse, Gears of war, and Dead Rising 3 to MSFT's first party just because they are publishing it.

4.  Will fix.


3. If MS owns the IP for Ryse, Gears, and DR3, I think they should be added too.  Are we defining 1st party as 1st party published or 1st party developed or both?  If the intent is to compare exclusives, it should be both as those games could never make it to the other consoles if either MS or Sony owns the IPs.    



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jacks81x said:
JayWood2010 said:


3. If MS owns the IP for Ryse, Gears, and DR3, I think they should be added too.  Are we defining 1st party as 1st party published or 1st party developed or both?  If the intent is to compare exclusives, it should be both as those games could never make it to the other consoles if either MS or Sony owns the IPs.    

First party development or co-development.  And no MSFT does not own Gears.  Ryse and DR3 may be but at this moment I don't know if Redmond Publishing or EMEA helped with these titles.  It was just yesterday that we found out Los Angeles Studios is behind Quantum Break.




       

jacks81x said:
JayWood2010 said:
jacks81x said:
1. It's Infamous: Second Son

2. The Order: 1886 is being developed by Ready At Dawn, a 2nd party studio.  Santa Monica is publishing it.  

3. Quantic Dream's untitled PS4 title should also be listed.  While they're a 2nd party studio, Sony will be publishing the game, as they did with Heavy Rain and Beyond: Two Souls.

4. SCE San Diego has two teams.  One for sure will be working on MLB 14 The Show.  The other is rumored to be working on a new IP. 


1. Will fix

2. it is still something that they are working on.  

3. No.  That would be like me adding Ryse, Gears of war, and Dead Rising 3 to MSFT's first party just because they are publishing it.

4.  Will fix.


3. If MS owns the IP for Ryse, Gears, and DR3, I think they should be added too.  Are we defining 1st party as 1st party published or 1st party developed or both?  If the intent is to compare exclusives, it should be both as those games could never make it to the other consoles if either MS or Sony owns the IPs.    


How can we tell who owns the IPs? Mass Effect was published by MS, but they didn't own the IP in the end.



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Osc89 said:
jacks81x said:
JayWood2010 said:
jacks81x said:
1. It's Infamous: Second Son

2. The Order: 1886 is being developed by Ready At Dawn, a 2nd party studio.  Santa Monica is publishing it.  

3. Quantic Dream's untitled PS4 title should also be listed.  While they're a 2nd party studio, Sony will be publishing the game, as they did with Heavy Rain and Beyond: Two Souls.

4. SCE San Diego has two teams.  One for sure will be working on MLB 14 The Show.  The other is rumored to be working on a new IP. 

 


3. If MS owns the IP for Ryse, Gears, and DR3, I think they should be added too.  Are we defining 1st party as 1st party published or 1st party developed or both?  If the intent is to compare exclusives, it should be both as those games could never make it to the other consoles if either MS or Sony owns the IPs.    


How can we tell who owns the IPs? Mass Effect was published by MS, but they didn't own the IP in the end.

We don't know.  And nor does it matter.  We are only looking at what the first parties are working on. NOt what MSFT and Sony has published.  They publish a lot of stuff outside of 1st party games.




       

JayWood2010 said:
Osc89 said:
jacks81x said:
JayWood2010 said:
jacks81x said:
1. It's Infamous: Second Son

2. The Order: 1886 is being developed by Ready At Dawn, a 2nd party studio.  Santa Monica is publishing it.  

3. Quantic Dream's untitled PS4 title should also be listed.  While they're a 2nd party studio, Sony will be publishing the game, as they did with Heavy Rain and Beyond: Two Souls.

4. SCE San Diego has two teams.  One for sure will be working on MLB 14 The Show.  The other is rumored to be working on a new IP. 

 


3. If MS owns the IP for Ryse, Gears, and DR3, I think they should be added too.  Are we defining 1st party as 1st party published or 1st party developed or both?  If the intent is to compare exclusives, it should be both as those games could never make it to the other consoles if either MS or Sony owns the IPs.    


How can we tell who owns the IPs? Mass Effect was published by MS, but they didn't own the IP in the end.

We don't know.  And nor does it matter.  We are only looking at what the first parties are working on. NOt what MSFT and Sony has published.  They publish a lot of stuff outside of 1st party games.


Ok, so by "working on" you mean development?  Just want to be clear since publishing a game also takes work, albeit not as much as developing a game from scratch.  



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JayWood2010 said:
Osc89 said:
jacks81x said:
3. If MS owns the IP for Ryse, Gears, and DR3, I think they should be added too.  Are we defining 1st party as 1st party published or 1st party developed or both?  If the intent is to compare exclusives, it should be both as those games could never make it to the other consoles if either MS or Sony owns the IPs.    


How can we tell who owns the IPs? Mass Effect was published by MS, but they didn't own the IP in the end.

We don't know.  And nor does it matter.  We are only looking at what the first parties are working on. NOt what MSFT and Sony has published.  They publish a lot of stuff outside of 1st party games.


Yeah, not much point really. Second party would be more relevant, but is still a grey area.



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well since santa monica is only publishing helping on The Order 1886, I'd wager to bet that they are working on a first party title (perhaps new IP).



Talal said:
I will permaban myself if the game releases in 2014.

in reference to KH3 release date

Update: Microsoft Lift London has announced they are working on 4 FTP titles for connected devices which includes Tablets, phones, computers, and the Xbox.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/microsoft-working-on-four-free-to-play-games-6411182