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VXIII said:

Does anyone have Lightning Returns data by any chance? Going through COMG archive is a pain that I won't be able to handle right now :/

Anyways, that flatness :P

...Holy fuck... I didn't realize it was SO FREAKING bad.

Yeah, i understand pre orders Will be better in the end... But still, At this Point i think FF XV should be about ~500k first week... Gonna drop the range again to 400-600k. If it sells 700k first week Will be a miracle.



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Viktor said:
Boutros said:

I'm not going to argue with someone who puts words in my mouth. I never said Japan didn't count.

here the quote I´m refering to.

"Apparently only Japan matters for a game mostly aimed at western markets."

"Sales in the US and Europe will be more telling."

You pretty much tried to deminish the importance of the Japanese market for the Final Fantasy IP. I couldn´t care less if you respond, a reaction isn´t what I´m after.

Still didn't say Japan didn't count. What isn't true about what you quoted I said?

You should read this article if you don't believe FFXV is aimed at western markets:

http://venturebeat.com/2016/06/12/final-fantasy-xv-director-on-keeping-a-japanese-flagship-series-relevant-in-2016/

“However, we can learn from other Western IPs, and we’ve done a lot of research seeing how other Western IP brands have [performed] on a global scale, and what they’ve taken into their games. We decided to take some of those aspects and incorporate it into our development plan and all of our designs.”

“It’s more of the triple-A Western approach: where they release their games, the size of the markets they’re going after, their marketing campaigns, how they go about creating and planning those campaigns, localization support — all of that. That’s really what I’ve been influenced by.”

 

Just look at the Uncovered Event. 10 years ago it would have been held in Japan but now they think more globally for the Final Fantasy franchise and the event was held in the US and in English. The reveal trailer for FFXV was at E3. Not the Tokyo Game Show. The movie Kingsglaive was animated for lip sync to be in English voices and the art style is more westernized than FFXV.

If you still don't see how FFXV is aimed at western markets and how that might  influence its impact in Japan than there's no reason to discuss this any further.



Ryng_Tolu said:
VXIII said:

Does anyone have Lightning Returns data by any chance? Going through COMG archive is a pain that I won't be able to handle right now :/

Anyways, that flatness :P

...Holy fuck... I didn't realize it was SO FREAKING bad.

Yeah, i understand pre orders Will be better in the end... But still, At this Point i think FF XV should be about ~500k first week... Gonna drop the range again to 400-600k. If it sells 700k first week Will be a miracle.

No way ita going to be that low. Its going to be much closere to 1mil mark than 500k



tbone51 said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

...Holy fuck... I didn't realize it was SO FREAKING bad.

Yeah, i understand pre orders Will be better in the end... But still, At this Point i think FF XV should be about ~500k first week... Gonna drop the range again to 400-600k. If it sells 700k first week Will be a miracle.

No way ita going to be that low. Its going to be much closere to 1mil mark than 500k

I love your optimistic view, give me some of that optimism.



Butcher2709 said:
tbone51 said:

No way ita going to be that low. Its going to be much closere to 1mil mark than 500k

I love your optimistic view, give me some of that optimism.

I cant imagine FF being under 700k fw. Just cant..... I wont believe it



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Viktor said:
Butcher2709 said:

13 sold 7M, that first. Unless you wanna count the PC release into it, which is simply stupid tbh.

 

Second, XV will sell more than 13 everywhere outside of Japan. And just because 13 sold well doesn`t mean it did no damage to the brand. You really must be blinded to think that way. The Nova Chrystallis ruined the reputation of the franchise.

On the other hand we have nothing that indicates a notable increase in popularity in US or Europe.

Come on. Show VGChartz some love :p

13 weeks before release:

11
Final Fantasy XIII (X360)
Square Enix, Role-Playing
13 3,791 42,823
12
Final Fantasy XIII (PS3)
Square Enix, Role-Playing
13 3,827

40,080

 

 

 

2
Final Fantasy XV (PS4)
Square Enix, Role-Playin
13 1,446

213,062

 

19
Final Fantasy XV (XOne)
Square Enix, Role-Playin
13 667 46,516

On a more serious note. FFXV hasn't left the Video games top 100 hourly charts on Amazon US since March. I'd say that is a good enough indication to make a prediction.



VXIII said:
Viktor said:

On the other hand we have nothing that indicates a notable increase in popularity in US or Europe.

Come on. Show VGChartz some love :p

13 weeks before release:

11
Final Fantasy XIII (X360)
Square Enix, Role-Playing
13 3,791 42,823
12
Final Fantasy XIII (PS3)
Square Enix, Role-Playing
13 3,827

40,080

 

 

 

2
Final Fantasy XV (PS4)
Square Enix, Role-Playin
13 1,446

213,062

 

19
Final Fantasy XV (XOne)
Square Enix, Role-Playin
13 667 46,516

On a more serious note. FFXV hasn't left the Video games top 100 hourly charts on Amazon US since March. I'd say that is a good enough indication to make a prediction.

The Deluxe Edition is high up on the PS4 games section since March basically. It`s like that in many countries (btw. why doesn`t UK have the Deluxe Edition on Amazon?), Gamescom will probably start the final push for marketing. Hope SE pushes the game in Japan though, because so far they almost havn't, atleast that what it seems like from an outside view - I could be completly wrong.



Did FF12 not annoy fans in Japan too? So maybe FF13 was the last straw?



tbone51 said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

...Holy fuck... I didn't realize it was SO FREAKING bad.

Yeah, i understand pre orders Will be better in the end... But still, At this Point i think FF XV should be about ~500k first week... Gonna drop the range again to 400-600k. If it sells 700k first week Will be a miracle.

No way ita going to be that low. Its going to be much closere to 1mil mark than 500k

I don't made any bet since March with Welfare about Twilight Princess to sells 235K in March NPD, that's really strange For me.

Wanna bet about Final Fantasy XV? you think Will be more Close to 1 million than 500k, so if it sells over 750k you win, if it sells under 750k, then i win.

 

1 - Retail only

2 - Media Create as source

 

One week of Tag and avatar controll.



Ryng_Tolu said:
tbone51 said:

No way ita going to be that low. Its going to be much closere to 1mil mark than 500k

I don't made any bet since March with Welfare about Twilight Princess to sells 235K in March NPD, that's really strange For me.

Wanna bet about Final Fantasy XV? you think Will be more Close to 1 million than 500k, so if it sells over 750k you win, if it sells under 750k, then i win.

 

1 - Retail only

2 - Media Create as source

 

One week of Tag and avatar controll.

Tag only. You have no mercy with avatar lol. 750k retail MC for source.