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Jadedx on 26 April 2013

Seriously vgking what is the matter with you? You report anyone not agreeing with you? You have serious issues.

User was warned for this post - Kantor



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walsufnir on 26 April 2013
Jadedx said:
Seriously vgking what is the matter with you? You report anyone not agreeing with you? You have serious issues.

Not that it would matter what he reports. He did it with me several AFAIR but I didn't even get a message from mods. But that's off-topic and useless - I don't think he will change although I really hope because I love his passionate way of arguing.



VGKing on 26 April 2013
J_Allard said:
Oh man, a DVR type recording setup would be so far superior to "share" or "highlights" imho. I want to record entire Guardians of Middle Earth games, entire Madden games, entire CoD matches, entire Motorstorm races, not just a few moments of each.

I don't see how it would be superior. There are positives and negatives to both. The big negative about DVR is that it isn't free. DVRs usually come with a monthly cost. Will that factor into XBL Gold subs? Who knows. The positive on having DVR functions is that it would be able to record more than just games like your cable TV shows which would be a huge plus.

The PS4 feature allows for 15-minute recording sessions doesn't it? That's enough for a whole COD match. The feature is supposed to be instant sharing so I'd say 15-minutes strike the right balance. Who wants to wait for hours of video to upload? You want to quickly upload your video and then continue playing. Do you ever see Youtube videos longer than that? Most are under 10.



VGKing on 26 April 2013
Jadedx said:
Seriously vgking what is the matter with you? You report anyone not agreeing with you? You have serious issues.

Flaming is against the rules and so is attacking other users. Reported.

User was warned for constantly posting "reported", such as in this post - Kantor

walsufnir said:
VGKing said:
Cyrus_ATX said:
VGKing said:
Cyrus_ATX said:
BenVTrigger said:
Not the first time Ive heard the "up to developers" rumor.

If true it makes things very interesting. Which publishers will have the stones to try and go always online drm first. My money is on EA and if they do I fully expect a complete crash in their sales

The console community wants the option of pre owned games this is clear


100% Agree!!!

But remember Sony said the same thing for the Ps4.

Quote:
Pre-owned games block on PS4 is "a publisher decision"

GameSpot asked Sony Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida in a quickfire Q&A not if PS4 would block used games but whether second hand games will require an activation code on the console.


His answer: “It's a publisher decision. We are not talking about it. Sorry.”

Quote:
Update: Speaking at a roundtable session with the press attended by Ars Technica, Shuhei Yoshida stated that "when you purchase the disc-based games for PS4, that should work on any hardware." When asked whether games would require online registration, Yoshida noted that that decision was up to the publisher. When asked if Sony, as a publisher, would require games to be registered online, Yoshida said, "we are not talking about that plan."

They answered the question about no used games by saying "when you purchase the disc=based games for PS4, that should work on any hardware". There's your answer.

As for games being required to be registered online, its a ridiculous question. Obviously publishers already have the option on PS3/360 games but don't do it for obvious reasons. They won't do it next-gen either.

hahahahaha!!!!

Why so defensive?

Are you mad?

chill out dude is only video games!!!!!lol

Not being defensive at all. Reported.

Reported for what exactly?

But anyway, PS4 and NextBox are so similar why still argue?

 

Flaming. It's pretty obvious.

 



walsufnir on 26 April 2013
VGKing said:
J_Allard said:
Oh man, a DVR type recording setup would be so far superior to "share" or "highlights" imho. I want to record entire Guardians of Middle Earth games, entire Madden games, entire CoD matches, entire Motorstorm races, not just a few moments of each.

I don't see how it would be superior. There are positives and negatives to both. The big negative about DVR is that it isn't free. DVRs usually come with a monthly cost. Will that factor into XBL Gold subs? Who knows. The positive on having DVR functions is that it would be able to record more than just games like your cable TV shows which would be a huge plus.

The PS4 feature allows for 15-minute recording sessions doesn't it? That's enough for a whole COD match. The feature is supposed to be instant sharing so I'd say 15-minutes strike the right balance. Who wants to wait for hours of video to upload? You want to quickly upload your video and then continue playing. Do you ever see Youtube videos longer than that? Most are under 10.

 

What if you want to do "walkthrough"-videos with commentary on Youtube? There are already a lot of them and many are longer than 15 minutes. To me NextBox will offer the same as PS4 does at least if we are talking about uploading videos. I think you can decide how much you will upload to youtube on NextBox...



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VGKing on 26 April 2013
walsufnir said:
VGKing said:
J_Allard said:
Oh man, a DVR type recording setup would be so far superior to "share" or "highlights" imho. I want to record entire Guardians of Middle Earth games, entire Madden games, entire CoD matches, entire Motorstorm races, not just a few moments of each.

I don't see how it would be superior. There are positives and negatives to both. The big negative about DVR is that it isn't free. DVRs usually come with a monthly cost. Will that factor into XBL Gold subs? Who knows. The positive on having DVR functions is that it would be able to record more than just games like your cable TV shows which would be a huge plus.

The PS4 feature allows for 15-minute recording sessions doesn't it? That's enough for a whole COD match. The feature is supposed to be instant sharing so I'd say 15-minutes strike the right balance. Who wants to wait for hours of video to upload? You want to quickly upload your video and then continue playing. Do you ever see Youtube videos longer than that? Most are under 10.

 

What if you want to do "walkthrough"-videos with commentary on Youtube? There are already a lot of them and many are longer than 15 minutes. To me NextBox will offer the same as PS4 does at least if we are talking about uploading videos. I think you can decide how much you will upload to youtube on NextBox...

Well PS4 has UP TO 15-minutes of recording. You can trim and edit that before you upload. If the NextBox allows for hours of recording then it would be perfect for walkthroughs. I guess if you're into that then its the console for you. This can't come cheap though, hours of recording will take a toll on system resources.(Ever used Fraps?)  LIke I said before, pros and cons. They both have them.



Hynad on 26 April 2013
Jadedx said:
Soleron said:
Why did MS let themselves take all the hate by not speaking, if Sony has the same policy?


MS will always get hated on, because sony fans and the media are rabid. When MS made the xbox it was too hardcore and shooter based, when MS made 360 it was still too hardcore even though it had a wide variety of games, when kinect came out MS "abandoned" the core gamer. This is just a continuation of past generations. No matter what MS gets hated on.

Ms has always been hated for many reasons. Putting the blame on only a group of fans is severly lacking sight. Apple fans and Lynux fans alike have hated MS for much longer than some Sony fans.

When MS entered the console gaming scene, people left and right were worried that the company would destroy the industry with it's questionable business practices. Now, did it actually happen? I'm not going to comment on that. But suffice to say, some trends going on right now in the industry aren't really in place for the consumer's interest.



walsufnir on 26 April 2013
VGKing said:
walsufnir said:
VGKing said:
J_Allard said:
Oh man, a DVR type recording setup would be so far superior to "share" or "highlights" imho. I want to record entire Guardians of Middle Earth games, entire Madden games, entire CoD matches, entire Motorstorm races, not just a few moments of each.

I don't see how it would be superior. There are positives and negatives to both. The big negative about DVR is that it isn't free. DVRs usually come with a monthly cost. Will that factor into XBL Gold subs? Who knows. The positive on having DVR functions is that it would be able to record more than just games like your cable TV shows which would be a huge plus.

The PS4 feature allows for 15-minute recording sessions doesn't it? That's enough for a whole COD match. The feature is supposed to be instant sharing so I'd say 15-minutes strike the right balance. Who wants to wait for hours of video to upload? You want to quickly upload your video and then continue playing. Do you ever see Youtube videos longer than that? Most are under 10.

 

What if you want to do "walkthrough"-videos with commentary on Youtube? There are already a lot of them and many are longer than 15 minutes. To me NextBox will offer the same as PS4 does at least if we are talking about uploading videos. I think you can decide how much you will upload to youtube on NextBox...

Well PS4 has UP TO 15-minutes of recording. You can trim and edit that before you upload. If the NextBox allows for hours of recording then it would be perfect for walkthroughs. I guess if you're into that then its the console for you. This can't come cheap though, hours of recording will take a toll on system resources.(Ever used Fraps?)  LIke I said before, pros and cons. They both have them.


I am not into it but generally both deliver the same. But I doubt it will up many system ressources. Fraps records most probably a totally different way than Sony and MS will do - they will have special hardware to do so. The only ressource I see under heavy load is the hdd. It doesn't matter if you record 15 minutes or hours of video, though. The "load" will be the same, you just need more disk-space.



walsufnir on 26 April 2013
Hynad said:
Jadedx said:
Soleron said:
Why did MS let themselves take all the hate by not speaking, if Sony has the same policy?


MS will always get hated on, because sony fans and the media are rabid. When MS made the xbox it was too hardcore and shooter based, when MS made 360 it was still too hardcore even though it had a wide variety of games, when kinect came out MS "abandoned" the core gamer. This is just a continuation of past generations. No matter what MS gets hated on.

Ms has always been hated for many reasons. Putting the blame on only a group of fans is severly lacking sight. Apple fans and Lynux fans alike have hated MS for much longer than some Sony fans.

When MS entered the console gaming scene, people left and right were worried that the company would destroy the industry with it's questionable business practices. Now, did it actually happen? I'm not going to comment on that. But suffice to say, some trends going on right now in the industry aren't really in place for the consumer's interest.

I doubt this is entirely Microsoft's fault.



J_Allard on 26 April 2013
VGKing said:
J_Allard said:
Oh man, a DVR type recording setup would be so far superior to "share" or "highlights" imho. I want to record entire Guardians of Middle Earth games, entire Madden games, entire CoD matches, entire Motorstorm races, not just a few moments of each.

I don't see how it would be superior. There are positives and negatives to both. The big negative about DVR is that it isn't free. DVRs usually come with a monthly cost. Will that factor into XBL Gold subs? Who knows. The positive on having DVR functions is that it would be able to record more than just games like your cable TV shows which would be a huge plus.

The PS4 feature allows for 15-minute recording sessions doesn't it? That's enough for a whole COD match. The feature is supposed to be instant sharing so I'd say 15-minutes strike the right balance. Who wants to wait for hours of video to upload? You want to quickly upload your video and then continue playing. Do you ever see Youtube videos longer than that? Most are under 10.

I can think of tons of games where I would want a longer record time than 15 minutes. A max of 15 minutes is cool if you just want to upload some cool highlight. A DVR type functionality would be infinitely better for me because the games I would use it for would run longer than 15 minutes.