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VizionEck

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A upscalled version from GAF (ignore the joking with the prices... use it just to see the graph more clear).



VizionEck

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Actually, 720 doesn't belong to any line so it clearly means that Xbox's GPU is in another whole different level.

I earned "Proof of Omega", killed the FF7 Weapons, attained "Big Boss" in the "Patriots", found and killed the Red Chocobo in FFXII, platinumed Killzone 2 and LBP. What you got bitch!? Huh?

AbbathTheGrim said:
Actually, 720 doesn't belong to any line so it clearly means that Xbox's GPU is in another whole different level.

nVidia puts the Nextbox point out the line because they expect the GPU to be weaker than PS4's GPU and the console to be released after PS4 (both 2013 release).



VizionEck

"Making haters eat crow since 1994"
Lord of Gran Turismo - Ethomaz the Undertracked

mid-end gaming PC now (months before its launch), low-end gaming PC in few years, platform flushed with horrible looking ports of PC games mostly with bad frame rate and or low resolution.

The PS4 buzz stinks with Vita type fiasco, platform hyped by many bought by few.

 

Steam Box if done properly can wipe the floor with PS4



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twilight_link said:

mid-end gaming PC now (months before its launch), low-end gaming PC in few years, platform flushed with horrible looking ports of PC games mostly with bad frame rate and or low resolution.

The PS4 buzz stinks with Vita type fiasco, platform hyped by many bought by few.

 

Steam Box if done properly can wipe the floor with PS4

 

I doubt very much that it'll be able to trump it at all i.t.o the specs/cost ratio.

 

 



Titan is not 3x faster than the GPU in PS4. 1152 SPs @ 800mhz with 176GB/sec memory bandwidth is faster than HD7850 2GB.

Titan is roughly 2x faster than HD7850 @ 1080P:

But hey, what can we expect from the same company that thinks charging a $600 price premium for 30% more performance over HD7970Ghz is reasonable...

I guess NV didn't get the memo that the console has 8GB of GDDR5 and when developers code directly to the metal they extract exponential gains in efficiency/performance. I want to see a $1,000 Titan deliver playable gaming performance in a next gen 2017-2018 game that PS4 will play (i.e., Uncharted 5, etc.).

Typical NV PR for investors. I guess when your $1,000 GPU gets its ass kicked in a 2013 game like Crysis 3 (http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2013/test-nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan/17/), you have to start spinning after you lost designs wins for next gen consoles and all the big games like Bioshock Infinite, Far Cry 3, Tomb Raider and BF4 are Gaming Evolved titles.

Undoubtedly in due time, PS4 will have games that look better than Crysis 3 and looking at how the Titan chokes on Crysis 3, it won't play those games in 2017-2020 without taking a dump as it can barely get 43 fps at 1080P in 2013 game like Crysis 3.

If more and more games are optimized for AMD's GPUs and all 3 next gen consoles have AMD hardware, one can guess why NV feels threatened to put down PS4.



twilight_link said:

mid-end gaming PC now (months before its launch), low-end gaming PC in few years, platform flushed with horrible looking ports of PC games mostly with bad frame rate and or low resolution.

The PS4 buzz stinks with Vita type fiasco, platform hyped by many bought by few.

 

Steam Box if done properly can wipe the floor with PS4


You forget that the PS2 was on the low end of the next gen spectrum when it was released. Most people won't notice because it will still be a gen up from what they had. It will also be affordable.



As long as games looks good on the next xbox I could care less how much more powerful the PS4 GPU.

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twilight_link said:

mid-end gaming PC now (months before its launch), low-end gaming PC in few years, platform flushed with horrible looking ports of PC games mostly with bad frame rate and or low resolution.

The PS4 buzz stinks with Vita type fiasco, platform hyped by many bought by few.

Steam Box if done properly can wipe the floor with PS4

Considering the early rumors of PS4/720 called for a GPU of HD6670 or 7670 level of performance, PS4's GPU is actually very respectable. In this economy and financial state of Sony, consumers wouldn't be interested in a $700-1000 PS4, while Sony couldn't afford a $300 loss per each console sold. Since GTX680/7970 use 180W of power in games, those GPUs couldn't be viable, and neither could the  Titan. That leaves us with still expensive HD7950/670 or something reasonable alongside 680M/7970M/HD7870/660. NV charges stupid money for 680M while it's only 5% faster than HD7970M. HD7850/7870 deliver better price/performance than anything NV has had up until 650Ti Boost. An 1152 shader GCN part with 176GB/sec memory bandwidth is actually the best you could have gotten without the price of the console or its power consumption ballooning way above reasonable levels. The bigger dissapointment is the CPU not the GPU.

Steam box won't wipe the floor with PS4 unless it costs substantially more. Since developers will code directly to the metal on PS4, Steam Box would need a way more powerful GPU to even come close to PS4's level of graphics. There is absolutely no way that $450 GTX680 would be able to play 2017-2018 PS4 games at the same level of graphics quality/performance. 

It sounds like you hate consoles in general but don't understand how the console business works. Additionally, if consoles didn't exist, blockbuster games wouldn't be viable since PC platform alone cannot sustain development budgets of games like Bioshock Infinite, BF4, Crysis 3, etc.