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crissindahouse said:
great, no clue why there was a site which said the opposite because it was very obvious that it's better (don't remember which, we had a thread about it)

Why a site did it?  You mean why people do it, or why would anyone in their right mind with concern for truth and decent tastes say so?  As for the former, it is to get hits.  As for the later, it is because the drive to get hits overrides truth and having good tastes.  What stands out is the freakshow on the Internet, not journalistic integrity.



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I might get this when I get my WiiU next month. I was gonna get it on the 360 but this is clearly better. Finally a port on Wii U that's better!



Yay first retail game that is undoubtedly better on WiiU in both performance and graphics.



milkyjoe said:
Great, now the real issue that everyone has missed because they're too busy arguing over pixels. This version is 2-3x more expensive than the others. Which is a joke.


Hmmm...I purchased it off from Origin for $29.99 which was the exact same price as the PS360 versions.



Stop hating and start playing.

Bong Lover said:
pezus said:
Cobretti2 said:
huiii said:
MegaDrive08 said:
I'm sure some inferior ps3/360 gamers will post refuting this then state how the ps4/720 will be superior in every way, inferiority complex over Nintendo and it's gamers


Wait what? So people not playing on Nintendo Systems are inferior?

And since you started it... Yes as far as i've heard the ps4 (and 720) will have superior specs than the Wii U... Not that that matters though since this is about NFS: MW...

OT: well criterion did say they would make it the best (console) version so it's not really surprising


I think he jsut used poor choice of words. There was a thread earlier using a "selected" review that was bashing the Wii U for hainvg worst gfx than the 360/PS3 version. People were using that as proof that it was worst, when clearly the developers were saving otherwise. 

Basically it was some random small review sites vs the developers word and people took that over other reviews and developer as gospel of the truth.

It's not only a poor choice of words though, because then he adds that PS360 games have an inferiority complex (which makes no sense...)

You are right, inferiority complex is not a good concewpt to use here, I think the word he really is trying to describe is envy, and what do you know? Envious posters are on full display in this thread as predicted.

Envious of what?



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

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Barozi said:
Yay first retail game that is undoubtedly better on WiiU in both performance and graphics.


TBH, I'm not sure it really matters, I paid full price on eShop to support Criterion for their efforts but it's not like consoles can compete with PCs anyways lol..... All the people whoring about console graphics should just save some money and get a new PC in a year or 2 if they really care about graphics "THAT" much.



ninjablade said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf29-F2Nh88 here is a video wiiu vs 360 comparison video

 

 

a very small unnoticeable upgrade, cause of the wiiu ram, many mulit-platform games have a bigger edge from 360 to ps3 and this is an enhanced port which came out 6 months later.


You will never be satisfied. Better textures, significant upgrades to both lighting and reflection mapping (both are noticeable and require more GPU power to pull off), very good AA, and better framerate. Pretty much every single visual aspect of the game has been upgraded in some way, yet you call it 'small'. If it were just one aspect that was upgraded, you would have a point, but you cannot (I repeat CANNOT) upgrade so many different aspect of the game without more GPU power. The fact is, we're getting to a point of diminishing returns on power. Since games like this already look very good to the naked eye on current consoles, technical upgrades are not as pronounced as when we were moving from SD to HD in the previous gen. Even watching the Killzone demo on PS4, though it looked very good, did not make current console games look bad in comparison by any stretch.

Your earlier predictions were that some things might be upgraded, while another aspect (like framerate) would be worse. You were wrong.

EDIT: I watched the video and was wondering if you had even bothered to watch it.

Framerate: WiiU clearly has the edge here in the more demanding scenes. In addition to dropping to an overall lower rate during cutscenes, the 360 version also 'stutters' a lot, which you can see as almost a split second 'pause' in the screen refresh. Playing the game on my friend's 360, we noticed it does this during races as well (especially whend taking a corner), but it does not do this nearly as much on the WiiU. Keep an eye on the spinning tires on the cop cars in the close-up shot.

Textures: WiiU has the edge here, but this is difficult to discrern when driving at 100+ MPH - It's much more noticeable in cutscenes. Also keep an eye on the textured damage mapping on the cars.

Lighting: This is where the WiiU takes the cake in my opinion. Until I saw this video, I had never noticed how big difference in the night-time lighting actually is. Just look at the pickup truck towards the end of the video. In the 360 version, it appears to be lit no matter what, while in the WiiU version you can clearly see lighting from directional sources interacting with the vehicle in a very natural looking way. The directional lighting on all aspects of the environment are significantly better on the WiiU version as well. I noticed a difference playing both versions on my TV, but seeing them side-by-side really shows this one off.

Reflections: Once again a noticeable difference here. The reflection mappings look much more realistic due to the higher draw distance on reflection maps. The quality of the reflection effect also appears to be upgraded.



since when is 720p and 30fps something to laud on an 8th generation console? hahaha

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BuckStud said:
milkyjoe said:
Great, now the real issue that everyone has missed because they're too busy arguing over pixels. This version is 2-3x more expensive than the others. Which is a joke.


Hmmm...I purchased it off from Origin for $29.99 which was the exact same price as the PS360 versions.

It's £44.99 compared to £24.99 for the other versions on the Origin store here.



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AbbathTheGrim said:
Bong Lover said:
pezus said:
Cobretti2 said:
huiii said:
MegaDrive08 said:
I'm sure some inferior ps3/360 gamers will post refuting this then state how the ps4/720 will be superior in every way, inferiority complex over Nintendo and it's gamers


Wait what? So people not playing on Nintendo Systems are inferior?

And since you started it... Yes as far as i've heard the ps4 (and 720) will have superior specs than the Wii U... Not that that matters though since this is about NFS: MW...

OT: well criterion did say they would make it the best (console) version so it's not really surprising


I think he jsut used poor choice of words. There was a thread earlier using a "selected" review that was bashing the Wii U for hainvg worst gfx than the 360/PS3 version. People were using that as proof that it was worst, when clearly the developers were saving otherwise. 

Basically it was some random small review sites vs the developers word and people took that over other reviews and developer as gospel of the truth.

It's not only a poor choice of words though, because then he adds that PS360 games have an inferiority complex (which makes no sense...)

You are right, inferiority complex is not a good concewpt to use here, I think the word he really is trying to describe is envy, and what do you know? Envious posters are on full display in this thread as predicted.

Envious of what?

I have no idea. Seems weird right, but there is deeprooted envy from somewhere. Maybe it's from sales totals last generation, or the cultural impact of Nintendo that no one can match? They secretly think Yoshi is adorable? Could be any number of things. You'd have to ask them, I don't know what drives them. Unfortunately, most likely they'll reply with something along the lines of:

"That's retarded, I have nothing to be envious about. I have the best gaming system and best games in the world why would I be envious?"

They will fully believe this statement themselves and are probably not consiouc of their envy, but there is something that promts the kind of responses you know you will see in a thread like this. Statements that takes the form of either belitteling or ridicule. Very strong tells of envy. Go back and see who feels they need to make statements like "It's a late port, they had more time to polish it" (belitteling) or "Wow, next generation console and you can barely see any improvement" (ridicule). The deeper reasoning for making these kinds of statements are almost rooted in some sort of envy.

That people are envious is not the same as having an inferiority complex though, so I agree that claiming that as the reasoning is bogus.