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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - Put a fork in the Wii U, it is done. [Sensible discussion only, no flaming]

tbone51 said:
Pavolink said:
Ok, you are now just taping your ears with your fingers. Pointless thread, as pointless as your absurd arguments. Keep living in dreamland.



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Einsam_Delphin said:
Seriously though, how can anyone say any console is done after it's only exsisted for four months? Generations typically last 7 years or so, not 7 or so months. If the latter was the case then pretty much every system would be a failure, but that's clearly not true.

A lot of consoles that never reached the lows Wii U has hit sold for less than 7 years... I don't think the Wii U will be one of them I'm just pointing out how what you said doesn't mean anythign



^But they sold for more than 4 months, which is what I'm getting at. A console's success is not determined by it's first four months, but by how it does in the long run, which is generally multiple years. Otherwis3 PS3, 3DS, etc. would also have to be considered failures.



After reading through these posts, I've come to the conclusion that this whole industry is is trouble, especially Nintendo; they in particular "could" (and take this with a grain of salt) be in deep, deep, DEEP trouble. Here's why.....

Because this industry has this "we're pressuring you to come up with something better" mindset when it comes to new hardware every generation, Nintendo pretty much has no choice but to come up with better hardware every gen. Its been getting more and more expensive for a company like them to come up with a successor since they're mainly a gaming company. Sony and MS have their other products to fall back to, They can suffer heavier losses than Nintendo.

What I'm trying to say is pretty much that we're going to see another crash if this industry matures and takes things more seriously.

Yes its Nintendo's fault for the Wii U's initial failure, BUT that doesn't justify (IMO) Nintendo branching off to just software since they haven't failed that badly or that the Wii U is done for. Thats just foolish and naive. Plus they said numerous times that they're taking their IPs with them when/if they sink. I think the best option for them if they want to still be here is if they branch off to other things but still keep it gaming related; and I'm not talking about them releasing their games on non-nintendo hardware.

Plus I don't think you can stick a fork into something that's made with Nintendium.



The Wii U is done folks. It will never compete with the big boys. Nintendo is charging too much to rope in the casuals, and hasn't provided a system with specs close enough to its competition to justify cheap ports. Thus, it won't get any 3rd party support. It'll be lucky even to get kids games, this time around, because Mom & Pop won't buy a $300 console for Johnny and Rebecca -- they will buy a $200 360 instead, or a $250 PS3, if they don't live in the US.

It'll have the same fate as the Wii, only faster. Just as I stated, with regards to the Wii, all the way back in 2007-2008. I'm not saying Nintendo is hozed -- they still have the 3DS, but they are not going to pull some miracle off.

 

In a sense, rather than making the *cheapest* console of the gen, like they did with the Wii, they made the *most expensive* console of the previous gen, except they made it about 4-5 years too late... but that's not stopping them from overcharging people for it.



 

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Einsam_Delphin said:
^But they sold for more than 4 months, which is what I'm getting at. A console's success is not determined by it's first four months, but by how it does in the long run, which is generally multiple years. Otherwis3 PS3, 3DS, etc. would also have to be considered failures.


People who mention the PS3's launch in the same breath as the Wii U's need to go look up the sales data again.  When the PS3 launched IT SOLD OUT!!!  I could not find one anywhere in multiple states for at least a month.  No it didn't sell nearly as well as the Wii's launch, but it did gangbusters compared to the Wii U.



Captain_Tom said:
Einsam_Delphin said:
^But they sold for more than 4 months, which is what I'm getting at. A console's success is not determined by it's first four months, but by how it does in the long run, which is generally multiple years. Otherwis3 PS3, 3DS, etc. would also have to be considered failures.


People who mention the PS3's launch in the same breath as the Wii U's need to go look up the sales data again.  When the PS3 launched IT SOLD OUT!!!  I could not find one anywhere in multiple states for at least a month.  No it didn't sell nearly as well as the Wii's launch, but it did gangbusters compared to the Wii U.

Why are you making us do this?



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Sales will not really take off for any new generation device until people have seen what the competition have to offer. A modest cut when the PS4/Nextbox arrives and some quality software and it will still sell plenty.




Captain_Tom said:
Actually half way through your post I decided I am gonna ignore you because you are clearly ignorant (Not stupid).  You have no idea that there are 30m+ 360 gold accounts or that there are 40m highly active PSN accounts that spend money.  You cant even imagine how much people invested into these accounts including achievments, friends, and other media to ever just leave it all behind.  

 

Can you show us a source? I'm of the belief that there are much less active accounts than the number created. I know a lot of people that kept creating new XBL for the free trial of Gold membership, and I've seen people in forums say that most PSN users have multiple accounts for whatever reason (I can't remember why).

I'm not saying your numbers are wrong. You could very well be right and well-informed, because I certainly am not in this case. I'm just asking for your source.



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