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Immortal said:
This is so laughably damage control. You're just looking at some cherry-picked article from a cherry-picked time period and trying to feel good about Sony. I don't even blame that article; even the most vehement Sony haters wouldn't have imagined Sony wasting the catastrophic amounts of money it did to keep the PS3 alive. I'm really not sure why you bring this up.
The NPD results got you down or something?


This article perfectly illustrates that period, the media was overly anti Sony back then. Maybe you forgot about it or maybe its because of your age(15 years?), even Gaben told Sony to drop the ps3.



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PS4 will bring back Onimusha!

The next Gen will be interesting, with all the older exclusive franchises like GTA, Metal Gear Solid (since the HD remakes are also on Xbox), Devil May Cry, and Final Fantasy going multi-plat, I wonder which company will produce the highest selling exclusives. That could be the difference in sales and with so many franchises going multi-plat to make back the millions they spend on development, there might not be too many 3rd party exclusives from now on.

But yeah ps4 needs to do more Onimusha and Konami should do another 2D Castlevania. Mario has dominated in 2D so you don't need a third dimension to sell!



pezus said:

Oh, wow, I remember when Gaben was a PS3 hater. Then he came out and announced Portal 2 at Sony's E3 presentation. A-M-A-...ZING!

Nothing like flying some good money on his general direction haha.



 

 

 

 

 

ClassicGamingWizzz said:
LOL at the doomsquad that always hated on ps3 xD


They are still here. Just look what Immortal posted (it actually is funny).



pezus said:
Immortal said:
This is so laughably damage control. You're just looking at some cherry-picked article from a cherry-picked time period and trying to feel good about Sony. I don't even blame that article; even the most vehement Sony haters wouldn't have imagined Sony wasting the catastrophic amounts of money it did to keep the PS3 alive. I'm really not sure why you bring this up.
The NPD results got you down or something?

Damage control for what? Actually, NPD gets me up in the morning. 

You're making a mistake, Sony had already wasted much of their PS3 money at that time. They wasted it pre-release and they wasted it in 2006, 2007, 2008 selling it at a major loss, and still "haters" were saying this. They didn't waste money from then on, in fact they wasted less and less money as time went on. So, yes, the haters knew 100% that Sony was ready to spend money, yet they were still 100% wrong. I'm not even sure where you're going with this.

Wait, what? I thought this was a late '06 article. Serves me right for not actually reading it, I suppose. My argument from there makes sense because even though they'd spent some money already,  it's reasonable for people to not expect Sony to spend another trillion (yes, I'm exaggerating, :P, but they still lost a hell lot of money after 2006) putting things right.

Regardless, my main point is that this is a completely pointless thing to bring up now. I could bring up lots of old articles predicting Nintendo's doom from, say, 2005 and lots of other predicting MS's doom, too. Feeling good about that is really stupid because there's pretty much always been some doom prediction that your company's doing better than. It looks like damage control because you're using pointless evidence to make things look rosy when they're not.

Turkish, I don't actually remember said period. Wasn't really into video game news back then. Sure, maybe the media was horribly anti-Sony. That doesn't make serving them crow at such an inopportune time any more reasonable.



 

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They better not screw us up again. im sick and tired of carrying their ass.



Well, that was a real concern back then. The company as a whole doing badly, PS3 losing lots of money, games leaving the platform, competition having traction on market and the system was way overpriced.

Technically, the article is six months early, but the problems were visible even at the time. Looking at it in a context of gaming media expecting a company making half a billion in profit a year with it's core business to exit the market, it kinda makes sense them expecting a company making a billion a year in losses with it's non-core business to exit the market aswell.

Anyway, Vita proved PS3 wasn't their last console, and we'll likely see PS4 aswell, but I'm not sure if it's what people would want it to be, as Kaz hinted a few years back, we could see a Steambox-kind of system.

The current situation where Sony fans stand currently, is like having survived a plague, but winter is coming and crops are still on the field.



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The real question should be do you remember a time when members on this site actually bothered themselves to follow a link. A lot of you are discrediting yourselves as rational and reasonable commentators. Don't just imagine what you think the article is about. Take the time to go read it before you comment. For the love of the game. Stop being sloppy. This analyst was somewhat prescient about how the companies focus was going to change over the coming years thanks to a change in leadership.

The analyst didn't disparage the brand, or the current console. They didn't even say explicitly that there wouldn't be a next installment in the brand. Only that they couldn't imagine it, and with good reason. The analyst was speculating that Harai moving up the ranks could signal the change from a hardware first prioritization to a software first prioritization. Which as far as gaming is concerned on the whole Sony is heading that way, and has been for quite some time. Since this analyst pontificated on the subject.

Sony has released Home, Move, PS+, and purchased Gaikai during the following years. All of which are software centric initiatives. So looking back now this analyst did a pretty damn good job of predicting things. Which is supposed to be their job I suppose. Chances are the PS4 probably won't be hyper engineered likes its predecessors. They weren't necessarily the strongest for their times, but they were always thoroughly realized. While a lot of you have been whooping it up at this guys expense. Have any of you bothered to dwell on the rumors you think prove your point.

All of the rumors do have a common thread, and that is the PS4 isn't being built in house. Unlike the consoles that came before now. This too is a design philosophy shift. The next console is probably going to be more off the shelf then a custom job, and that means in a subtle way that it isn't necessarily the heir apparent. I doubt that most of you care, but the analyst has a pretty good point here. If the rumors are true then is it going to be what you expect from this console brand. In other words will in just be a Playstation only in name. It is kind of hard to predict what you will get when the company you have been studying decides to up and change its design, and build philosophy.



I wouldnt be worried, Sonys Gaming department is not going anywhere. They have said many times before its one of there strongest departments in there company PS is here 2 stay.



 

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