What a great number of people here don't realise is that wii was a success because of the motion controls and wii fit. Call them gimmic or whatever you want. That's what made wii a success. Not Mario or Zelda. A Mario game can help a handheld a lot, but not so much a home console.

But what about Mario? Or Brawl? They sold very well.
Yes, they sure did, but similar games were released on the gamecube and didn't help its sales that much.

I bought a wii in 2008 and have wii sports, wii fit, mario galaxy, brawl, a naruto, mortal kombat and a sonic game.
Had it not been for the innovation of the motion controls, I wouldn't have bought one (or Mario Galaxy, which wasn't a system seller for me, just a game to play after the excitement over the wii sports tennis game was over) and I kind of regret my purchase, as I have tons of ps3 games I'm more excited about and don't see getting around playing any time soon.

Just like the psp, a lot of people felt that they got burnt with their wii, especially after 2009 and are not interested in buying its successor.

I hope moderators start taking action and stop the madness with all the doom threads.

a vicious circle really...

maybe a donkey kong country u :( please nintendooooooooooooooooooooooo
yeah a lot of people are not interested on wii u
it is too "kiddie" for 11 year old playing COD.
i remember when i was at target, i was looking at the wii u and this 11 year old kid approached me and told me "that is for kids, you should play this" and he points on *tadah!* COD"...
i dont think nintendo capture today's child's imagination

By your logic, a typical console launch in the same timeframe of PS3 and Wii U cannot have good December sales without heavy supply restrictions. Sub-500k is rather normal in a situation like this one.

I thinking making a system so similar to the PS3/360 in performance was a massive, massive mistake on Nintendo's part. 

It worked for the Wii only because the Wii had an incredible, once-every-10-20-years type of revolution that totally changed the game experience by getting people off the couch and on their feet. 

We have a December NPD thread. We don't need this.