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KHlover said:
brendude13 said:

I'm not so sure, Gamecube made more profit than the PS2 I believe.

According to this article the Vita was being sold at loss at least 2011, even if this no longer is the case I'm pretty sure Vita won't manage to take in R&D costs fo a while. Gamecube moved lots of software compared to the Vita, much of it 1st party. That's the big difference.

I don't think it'd be selling at a loss now, probably breaking even. I think SONY will drop the price so that they are breaking even for another year before they start making profit. I wonder what percentage of Nintendo's profits is from software sales.



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As long as dedicated handhelds do things smartphones and tablets can't do there will be a market for them. As simple as that. Innovation and the right price=success!!



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is he referring to nintendo? XD



 

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kitler53 said:
kowenicki said:
BasilZero said:
JayWood2010 said:
logic56 said:
I don't see anyone with a brain that doubted this Sony but ok.


He seems to be talking about portable consoles, not home consoles.


Is it just the Vita itself or are they talking about the Mobile game division or w/e its called.


Neither.

He is talking generally.  He is saying there is a place for dedicated handheld gaming devices in the market.

I agree. But they will become increasingly niche and will be dominated by Nintendo. 


i disagree.  while there are many niche markets that can do well enough video games aren't one of them.  there is a delicate ecosystem between the number of consumers, the number of developers, the number of games, and the number of game sales.  too few of any and the ecosystem collapses.  there will be no place for dedicated handheld gaming devices in the future.

Smartphone and handheld console had a different audience that why the two will co-exist.

Developper will make games for both why don't attract the two audience?



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

I agree, but it will be have a smart phone os and access to all the apps and what not that comes with it.



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zero129 said:
kitler53 said:
KHlover said:
kitler53 said:
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i disagree.  while there are many niche markets that can do well enough video games aren't one of them.  there is a delicate ecosystem between the number of consumers, the number of developers, the number of games, and the number of game sales.  too few of any and the ecosystem collapses.  there will be no place for dedicated handheld gaming devices in the future.

I'm pretty sure there will be. It may become smaller, but it won't vanish. I'd really like not to mention Nintendo in this post, but there's no way around it: They have established a userbase of I'd say around 30-50Mil DEDICATED (of course I can only guess this number, but even the GBA as their weakest selling handheld sold 80Mil) buyers of their handhelds and 2x as much POTENTIAL buyers. As long as Nintendo makes profit off handhelds the market won't die. Simple as that.

past performance does not guarentee future success. 

3DS already had 1 emergency price cut.  3DSs second calendar year barelly was up YoY despite have a 3 extra months on the market.  the games library is significantly smaller then the kind of support the DS had.  Games cost between 4 to infinatly times more than the games on competitive devices. 

..i don't care how good pokemon or mario is.  that market can and likely will disappear.  3DS will survive.  but if nintendo (and everyone else for that matter) don't adapt to the changing market then they'll be about as relavent as a stage coach repair shop after the introduction of cars.

You seem to be missing the fact that even if you dont like games like Mario etc millions do just looke at the sales of games with the name Mario on it.

Pretty much as long as Nintendo has games like Mario, Animal Crossing, Mario Kart, Pokemon etc etc they will always have a market.

did i say i don't like mario?  no. 

what i said is it doesn't matter if nintendo keeps putting out mario games... the market can still change.  millions of people liked guitar hero games, now they don't.  tens of millions of people didn't care to buy a GC even when it had mario.

there are a ton of things that go into a consumers purchase decision and regardless of what nintendo fans want to think, nintendo first party isn't soo spectacular that consumers can't ignore them. it's happened before.  it will happen again.



Im glad Kaz Hirai is the new CEO of Sony, I belive he can put the company back on track.



 

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Sure there's a market for a portable game-centric handheld ... problem for Sony is there's only enough space left these days for one company, and Nintendo basically already took that seat at the table.

And even the 3DS, I don't think will come anywhere close to the DS' sales, I think it will cap out around 90-95 million or so, a large drop from 150+ million for DS.

The other problem for Sony is the handheld market is likely never going to appeal to the "dudebros" segment. If they want to play Call of Duty or Madden NFL, that's what their home console is for. The handheld market is much oriented towards kids, and in that market, Sony's LittleBigPlanet doesn't cut the mustard versus Mario, Pokemon, Kirby, Animal Crossing, etc.