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And i thought the Vita sent a message about how bad the handheld market is. Silly me.



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pezus said:

Not anymore :(





Pfew, man, that was good to hear. I thought PSV sales were pathetic. Such relief.



badgenome said:
pezus said:

Not anymore :(






Ongoing bet with think-man: He wins if MH4 releases in any shape or form on PSV in 2013, I win if it doesn't.

To soon.. I think judging the Vita before it had 6 Christmases is unreasonable.



 

Face the future.. Gamecenter ID: nikkom_nl (oh no he didn't!!) 

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Chandler said:
badgenome said:
pezus said:

Not anymore :(




lol at lol... he's definitely the best



torok said:
Gamerace said:
Who cares about Vita sales? We know already.

But Project Shield? That's interesting. NVidia becoming a console maker (of sorts). What is this the fifth Android console to be coming out this year? But the first with a major corporation backing it. 3rd parties will be giving Android some major support if these devices catch on at all. And I suspect they will...


Play Dead Trigger and you will see that mobile games are still far from console experiences, with few exceptions like Dead Space, Sonic and Need For Speed Most Wanted (the Criterion game, not the old one).

A) Don't forget the underpowered Wii and DS beat more powerful systems in sales

B) Systems like NVidia's will allow much more console-quality games to be made for Android systems.  This is just one of many such systems are more will likely be announced.  If Apple tosses it's hat in the ring...

C) The cost of these Android dedicated gaming devices is around $100 with an immense library of games from the get go and games will cost a fraction of what console games do.  No word on NVidia's system's price though.

D) Project Shield also allows full PC games to be streamed which, could potentially, make this far superior to WiiU's merger gamepad offering.

E) All of these new Android gaming device players can introduce new models regularly - the systems are quite inexpensive after all - and I project by 2014 when the 2nd gen Android devices hit, WiiU will be dead in the water (except for great Nintendo games) and PS will need to move to more of an online streaming service to survive  (I've little hope for PS4).    IF MS actually perfect Kinect with some kind of decent halographic tech as rumoured, it'll justify itself as a home console (plus it's designed to be so much more).  MS should do okay but may not reach even 360's sales again.

F) 3rd parties are all for having one dominate system.  It means less cost to them vs making games for multiple systems using multiple OSs and tech.  If Android looks like it can become that unifying standard, 3rd parties will embrace it wholeheartily.  They've no loyality to console makers.   However, whatever is selling will get games.  What isn't, won't (see Vita).



 

Andrespetmonkey said:

lol at lol... he's definitely the best


He is definitely a chill guy but I don't know if he is enough of a business man to be that high in the food chain @ Sony



Ongoing bet with think-man: He wins if MH4 releases in any shape or form on PSV in 2013, I win if it doesn't.

One thing I learned about PR statement from every big company are:

Great means Good
Good means Average
Average means Bad (<-------Vita)
Bad means you're fucked



Gamerace said:

A) Don't forget the underpowered Wii and DS beat more powerful systems in sales

B) Systems like NVidia's will allow much more console-quality games to be made for Android systems.  This is just one of many such systems are more will likely be announced.  If Apple tosses it's hat in the ring...

C) The cost of these Android dedicated gaming devices is around $100 with an immense library of games from the get go and games will cost a fraction of what console games do.  No word on NVidia's system's price though.

D) Project Shield also allows full PC games to be streamed which, could potentially, make this far superior to WiiU's merger gamepad offering.

E) All of these new Android gaming device players can introduce new models regularly - the systems are quite inexpensive after all - and I project by 2014 when the 2nd gen Android devices hit, WiiU will be dead in the water (except for great Nintendo games) and PS will need to move to more of an online streaming service to survive  (I've little hope for PS4).    IF MS actually perfect Kinect with some kind of decent halographic tech as rumoured, it'll justify itself as a home console (plus it's designed to be so much more).  MS should do okay but may not reach even 360's sales again.

F) 3rd parties are all for having one dominate system.  It means less cost to them vs making games for multiple systems using multiple OSs and tech.  If Android looks like it can become that unifying standard, 3rd parties will embrace it wholeheartily.  They've no loyality to console makers.   However, whatever is selling will get games.  What isn't, won't (see Vita).

 

The problems are the games. Most of them are terrible. Dead Trigger is pretty, but all missions are just "fight zombies to get a cardboard box, return to base" or "fight zombies to protect random vans". Other point is the quality of controls. The most successfull games in mobile have simple control schemes. The more complex games have bad controls. It feels bad to play some of them, comparing with gaming on handhelds (Vita controls are great, wich makes some games on it way more appealing than tablet ones). Mobile games don't need raw power right now, they need better controls, better plots and less F2P. Talking about price, NVidia's device looks expensive and probably will retail for more than US$300-400.

Actually, I have good hopes for PS4, 720 and Wii U. They are consoles with closed specs and heavy optimization. Even with more raw power, mobile devices will take a time to catch them. New devices with better specs every year don't necessarily will result in a big jump. The devs have to target the most common devices and they don't have closed specs for heavy optimization.

I agree that, most probably, we won't see another handheld gen, but it won't be because of the quality of mobile games, but simply because handhelds aren't as important as home consoles for most people and tablets have the hability to do more things than just gaming. It's like choosing if you will get a notebook or a PS3. Videogames are cool, but computers are vital. But, for home consoles, everything is safe for now. I would even risk to predict that the combined sales of all next gen home consoles will surpass the total of the current ones.