Really this thread is going to be based on ones beleifs .. and nothing more.. This forum company has more members in Europe.. In the USA the 360 is 25 million ahead of the PS3.. The PS4 can't be the #1 consoles without getting America back ( a tough task ) .. The PS2 dominated America and the PS2 was simply just 1st place - It was 90 million consoles ahead of the 2nd place Xbox 1 ( which launched 1.5 years after the PS2 - and had much less developer support since it was a first effort console ).. Although the 2nd place race is close.. the 360 accomplished something pretty astonishing - its sold almost 50 million more consoles then the Xbox 1 ( which sold around 24 million ) - And it did it in only a single generation: In just the 2nd effort MS has gained a respectable percentage of world sales.. If they gain even 5% sales worldwide with NextBox - they wont have any problem.. Again Sony can't make a comback with the USA.. If anyone disagrees - Sony is spending a additional 50 million in advertising in the USA just trying to help Vita sales. America can make or break a handheld or console ( When it comes to Dominance v/s being just another 'good console" ). The most loyal Sony fans only 6 years ago were pretty darn sure the PS3 would be in 1st place by now - or even a strong 2nd - and 4 years ago most were saying in just a few more years the tide would sure change - but here were are still debating in 2013 when the PS3 will 'hopefully' overtake and be 2nd place - when honestly it doesn't matter much - it would be more a moral victory since Sony is more concerned about turning the PS division back into profitability and dominance - something it doesnt have much of now. And again it still cost more to make a PS3 then a 360.. Going by sales which is not subject to much opinion.. The PS3 was successful but not the most sucessful.. despite free online gaming ( which is nice ) and a whole list of reason to buy the PS3 the magic wasn't there this generation.. If Sony is truly making the PS4 more like a PC ( or yeah - even more like an Xbox ) Sony will be essentially saying CELL was a mistake otherwise they'd stick with it.. It cost more and takes more time to develop quality games for.. more time means more money and less profits.. and the PS3 still cost more to make then the other 2 consoles.. There is mounting evidence the new Playstation President didn't want and won't be using the updated version of CELL ( which was the plan of the previous PS head guru ) and will be ditching it for a more contemporary setup that is more developer friendly ..