I hunt and fish which means I kill animals myself, cut them up, cook them and eat them. When I grew up my parents would raise a steer or a heifer for a year or two and then slaughter it. I helped take care of it and then I helped slaughter it. The beef I eat comes from a local farm and is humanly slaughtered. I know where my meat comes from and I am well aware of nature of life and death. Animals aren't people so your alien analogy falls completely flat.

With that said, I don't approve of the mistreatment of animals that big corporations cause.

However, nothing will stop me from enjoying meat. An hour long propaganda piece on meat isn't going to "open my eye" or make me rethink anything. We are all part of the same ecco-system and circle of life. We earned the right to be at the top of the food chain. Animals are rightfully our food and we are the stewards of the ecco-system that we climbed to the top of. Animal abuse and neglect disgusts me, but local ranchers here in Oregon don't mistreat their animals.

My advice to you is to buy locally sourced meat products from trusted small businesses. Go to a butcher for meat instead of Safeway. Ask where it came from and if the butcher can't tell you the rancher's name go to another butcher.

Fight animal abuse not meat eaters.

I'm already a Lacto-Ovo Vegetarian I quit eating meat about 5 years ago around the time the whole mad cow disease scare was going around.

The difference I can't give less fuck about that happening to a wild life but I'll shoot those hyenas down if they were trying to eat a human mother with a baby in her, or if 2 men are trying to cut a woman with a baby in her, I'll put a gun on them right away to stop them after calling 911, or simply walk away if they are just killing a stray dog.

there you go wiy=th those fallacies again.

And to explain like you asked me to I'm talking about logical fallacies and arguments. You don't have a sound argument... nor a valid one

One thing i've always found hilarious is the double standard we as humans have towards animals. It's fine to slaughter hoards, beyond hoards of animals for consumption or sport. However if one animal attacks a human. Oh that bitch has to die. Simply unacceptable.

Animal abuse is reprehensible, but don't even try to compare animals to people. The killing of an innocent human being is a crime beyond measure. The eating of meat is just part of nature. No other animal questions this universal truth but mankind. The harvesting of meat by humans as natural as cultivating the land. We earned the right to both by adapted and climbing to the top of the food chain.

That's where you are wrong, if I see you getting attacked by wild animals, I'll gun their asses down for you then eat their asses if it's legal hunting season. If I see you getting robbed, I'll call 911 or find a cop for you. I'm on your side, the question is, whose side are you on? You inhumane weirdo.

I'm not recommending a "soy-based" diet.  Yes, soy in large amounts contains enough estrogen to have a negative effect on males, however, the studies show that those with these side effects were consuming a significant amount of soy (studies show that those affected were consuming 3 quarts / day for three years).  I'm not recommending that, and at that point you are getting into paranoia mode.  Remember saccharin, ephedra?  Even vitamin A and E.  Same idea.  You can supplement your diet with other nuts and legumes to get a complete protein.  Heck you could just drink protein shakes for a 99% efficient (able to be catabolized) protein.

I said nothing about carnivores exclusively, I said animals in general and for your information human are animals and are also omnivores meaning we can eat meat and plant in our natural diet. Since there are many different species that are omnivores are you saying they should all convert to just plant life?  It's natural and it worked for us so far.

I will say it again. Your alien analogy falls flat.

I'll illustrate it with a question:

A scuba diver is eaten Shark and a man eats a hamburger. Which is the greater tragedy?