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Nem on 26 December 2012
sergiodaly said:
Nem said:

I find it funny how 1.25 CPU is slow and 1.6 is fast. Only in the internet... its those 350Mhz that make the difference!

It might be easier for people to say Nintendo is slow and Microsoft is fast! Its about as obvious that theres no logic to it.

3 cores @1.25 is (not a little bit, a lot) slower than 8 or 16 cores @ 1.6
here in the internet and everywhere.

i don't get what is so difficult to understand...


ahah... but thats not what the internet says. The internet doesnt mention cores to say the Wii U CPU is slow.

Cores just enter the equation once we are talking about the Xbox. :)

My point is: people troll and hate on nintendo before knowing anything. If the xbox does something similar its suddenly not a problem anymore. That is amusing.



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SubiyaCryolite on 26 December 2012
Soleron said:
SubiyaCryolite said:
Early rumors point to it having 8 - 16 cores. 16/8 cores @ 1.6GHz sounds feasible for a console >_>

16 AMD cores @ 1.8GHz has an 85W TDP. Not likely.

8 then? It was suppossed to be based off Atom (or the AMD equivalent)



I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

Jaywood2010 on 26 December 2012
bertlsenix said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Nextbox $499 at launch? doesn't sound to bad. let the war begin again. Kinect2 could be better then sliced bread.


It will be the same garbage as Kinect 1
It won't work like the things they are going to promise - Kinect 1 should have been able to do FLUENT and perfect stuff where you can play games on the quality level of Uncharted,Halo 4, and other things.
Yeah...Kinect Fable...awesome...really...totally what they promised.
Lets believe in them for Kinect 2.0 - We will probably have Virtual Reality or so where we can control the game with our mind.People probably will believe it if Microsoft is promising it.

Leap is thousand times better.

People rather should hope the whole NextBox Gen won't be about Casual Kinect Stuff and CoD/Halo/Gears Trilogies/Sequels/Prequels.
They surely won't put the same effort in like they did at the beginning of the 360.Not a lot 3rd Party Exclusives and new IPs like Kameo and stuff.This won't happen again.

Roma said:
the art looks nice but where do you insert the DVD? in the butt?

Who cares for DVD?Its about BluRay(finally also on the Microsoft side too) - The thing that is 10 000 times superior to the DVD.


Kinect is a cool piece of technology but game wise it is aimed at the casual audience.  You can't play games like gears, halo, fable, uncharted, etc whithout buttons and a controller.  If you ever thought it could then how did you think that was possible?  The only way kinect will work with hardcore games like those games I mentioned is if they combined kinect with a standard controller.  That is what I see them doing with many games in the future.




       

keroncoward on 26 December 2012
Nem said:
sergiodaly said:
Nem said:

I find it funny how 1.25 CPU is slow and 1.6 is fast. Only in the internet... its those 350Mhz that make the difference!

It might be easier for people to say Nintendo is slow and Microsoft is fast! Its about as obvious that theres no logic to it.

3 cores @1.25 is (not a little bit, a lot) slower than 8 or 16 cores @ 1.6
here in the internet and everywhere.

i don't get what is so difficult to understand...


ahah... but thats not what the internet says. The internet doesnt mention cores to say the Wii U CPU is slow.

Cores just enter the equation once we are talking about the Xbox. :)

My point is: people troll and hate on nintendo before knowing anything. If the xbox does something similar its suddenly not a problem anymore. That is amusing.


Youre fighting a battle you will never win with some of these guys. They will never admit their bias and its ok really. Just forget about them and consider yourself fortunate to be intelligent.



20happyballs on 26 December 2012
Nem said:
sergiodaly said:
Nem said:

I find it funny how 1.25 CPU is slow and 1.6 is fast. Only in the internet... its those 350Mhz that make the difference!

It might be easier for people to say Nintendo is slow and Microsoft is fast! Its about as obvious that theres no logic to it.

3 cores @1.25 is (not a little bit, a lot) slower than 8 or 16 cores @ 1.6
here in the internet and everywhere.

i don't get what is so difficult to understand...


ahah... but thats not what the internet says. The internet doesnt mention cores to say the Wii U CPU is slow.

Cores just enter the equation once we are talking about the Xbox. :)

My point is: people troll and hate on nintendo before knowing anything. If the xbox does something similar its suddenly not a problem anymore. That is amusing.

 

Well that's because it would be very misleading to not mention the amount of cores the nextbox supposedly has. The Wii U, on the other hand, is only running three. Thats almost a given and so it does not need mentioning. Having 8 or 16 cores, however, is quite unusual. That definitely needs to be mentioned. Especially because of how much of a difference it makes. 





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Jaywood2010 on 26 December 2012
20happyballs said:
Nem said:
sergiodaly said:
Nem said:

I find it funny how 1.25 CPU is slow and 1.6 is fast. Only in the internet... its those 350Mhz that make the difference!

It might be easier for people to say Nintendo is slow and Microsoft is fast! Its about as obvious that theres no logic to it.

3 cores @1.25 is (not a little bit, a lot) slower than 8 or 16 cores @ 1.6
here in the internet and everywhere.

i don't get what is so difficult to understand...


ahah... but thats not what the internet says. The internet doesnt mention cores to say the Wii U CPU is slow.

Cores just enter the equation once we are talking about the Xbox. :)

My point is: people troll and hate on nintendo before knowing anything. If the xbox does something similar its suddenly not a problem anymore. That is amusing.

 

Well that's because it would be very misleading to not mention the amount of cores the nextbox supposedly has. The Wii U, on the other hand, is only running three. Thats almost a given and so it does not need mentioning. Having 8 or 16 cores, however, is quite unusual. That definitely needs to be mentioned. Especially because of how much of a difference it makes. 


Most people doesn't even know much about technology and how it works.  They base their opinions based on others opinions who know a little bit abut what they are talking about.  However we wont know much about the specs for a while.  Off of the rumors The NeXbox does sound reasonably more powerful than the WiiU.  That is not a bad thing for the WiiU though so don't take it that way. The WiiU has much better graphics than the Wii and WiiU will most likely compare to the NeXbox and PS4 more so than the Wii vs the HD twins.




       

MARCUSDJACKSON on 26 December 2012
bertlsenix said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Nextbox $499 at launch? doesn't sound to bad. let the war begin again. Kinect2 could be better then sliced bread.


It will be the same garbage as Kinect 1
It won't work like the things they are going to promise - Kinect 1 should have been able to do FLUENT and perfect stuff where you can play games on the quality level of Uncharted,Halo 4, and other things.
Yeah...Kinect Fable...awesome...really...totally what they promised.
Lets believe in them for Kinect 2.0 - We will probably have Virtual Reality or so where we can control the game with our mind.People probably will believe it if Microsoft is promising it.

Leap is thousand times better.

People rather should hope the whole NextBox Gen won't be about Casual Kinect Stuff and CoD/Halo/Gears Trilogies/Sequels/Prequels.
They surely won't put the same effort in like they did at the beginning of the 360.Not a lot 3rd Party Exclusives and new IPs like Kameo and stuff.This won't happen again.

 

yea with the big 3 starting off on level footing, the 3rd party advantage goes out the window. i'm still looking at Sony to win the 8th gen. but it will be close.

i have no faith in kinect2. i'm just being hopeful, that MS can deliver on their promise to their fans.

lets face it. MS never had a core focus for their console, and games wise they are still lost. nextbox will have a stronger multimedia focus then 360 has.

but this thread isn't about that.

moving on.



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Soleron on 26 December 2012
SubiyaCryolite said:
Soleron said:
SubiyaCryolite said:
Early rumors point to it having 8 - 16 cores. 16/8 cores @ 1.6GHz sounds feasible for a console >_>

16 AMD cores @ 1.8GHz has an 85W TDP. Not likely.

8 then? It was suppossed to be based off Atom (or the AMD equivalent)

Bobcat? Since they don't have a 8/16-core Bobcat server chip on the roadmap I don't see why they'd build one for Sony.



ice on 26 December 2012

E3 needs to hurry up!



sergiodaly on 26 December 2012
Nem said:
sergiodaly said:
Nem said:

I find it funny how 1.25 CPU is slow and 1.6 is fast. Only in the internet... its those 350Mhz that make the difference!

It might be easier for people to say Nintendo is slow and Microsoft is fast! Its about as obvious that theres no logic to it.

3 cores @1.25 is (not a little bit, a lot) slower than 8 or 16 cores @ 1.6
here in the internet and everywhere.

i don't get what is so difficult to understand...


ahah... but thats not what the internet says. The internet doesnt mention cores to say the Wii U CPU is slow.

Cores just enter the equation once we are talking about the Xbox. :)

My point is: people troll and hate on nintendo before knowing anything. If the xbox does something similar its suddenly not a problem anymore. That is amusing.

is not my fault your internet didn't mention the cores when they did talk about wii U, but my internet did mention that it has 3 cores (same as xbox 360) with lower clock but a better/different architecture. its was arguable that its slow against the 3 core @3.2 of xbox since nintendo is yet to release the computer power for the CPU used in Wii U.

i agree people on internet jump the gun and speak without knowing what are they talking about, but that was caused by nintendo by not releasing the final specs.

if MS will go the same road, low clock speed, but does compensate with a high core number to archive the processing power leap people expect for a next gen console, does not validate the fact that nintendo did let us in a guessing game with low numbers (yet to be proven that Wii U is underpowered but by numbers we have, what other conclusion can we get?)

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