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Argh_College said:
Soleron said:
Argh_College said:

IOS is 2nd and they make way more money than Google

Precisely. Apple's margins >>>> Android or Winphone margins. From the actual OS, MS and Google don't make much. Profit, unlike Apple, comes from the tie-in to their other products: search, the store, Windows 8, Win8 tablets. And Win8 is selling less than Win7 last year despite being a new OS, so it's already failed at promoting Windows.

Go and look at MS's profit for the relevant division. It's not high.

LOL do u even have any source for this ??

Try harder

http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/29/npd-u-s-windows-device-sales-down-21-on-last-year-windows-8-tablet-sales-almost-non-existent/

Bam.

Oh and in case you were wondering if I'm just hating on MS because they're MS, I hate on everyone that isn't doing wellenough financially.



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Soleron said:
Argh_College said:
Soleron said:
Argh_College said:

IOS is 2nd and they make way more money than Google

Precisely. Apple's margins >>>> Android or Winphone margins. From the actual OS, MS and Google don't make much. Profit, unlike Apple, comes from the tie-in to their other products: search, the store, Windows 8, Win8 tablets. And Win8 is selling less than Win7 last year despite being a new OS, so it's already failed at promoting Windows.

Go and look at MS's profit for the relevant division. It's not high.

LOL do u even have any source for this ??

Try harder

http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/29/npd-u-s-windows-device-sales-down-21-on-last-year-windows-8-tablet-sales-almost-non-existent/

Bam.

Oh and in case you were wondering if I'm just hating on MS because they're MS, I hate on everyone that isn't doing wellenough financially.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57555141-75/microsoft-says-its-sold-40-million-windows-8-licenses-so-far/

Win 8 is selling faster. Bam Bam Bam!

And financially Apple stocks is more down than Microsoft in the last month. Still like Apple ?



http://www.zdnet.com/wall-street-ratings-firm-casts-doubt-on-npds-early-windows-8-sales-data-7000008492/


Mega Bam Bam!!!



DirtyP2002 said:
Soleron said:
Thank you Cyrus_ATX. So we can see that it's still nowhere despite the large percentage improvement.

Mobile devs won't be making things for three platforms with one a fifth the size of the other two, especially because of how fragmented Android already is, and that iOS needs iPads as well.


?

There are more than enough apps on all 3 platforms already.

46 of the 50 most popular iOS and Android apps are on WinPhone 8 already.
Overall, there are 120k apps available on WindowsPhone (Oct 2012). If you really need 15 different fart generators fine, but every regular user should be happy with the selection. And of course, it will grow in the future.

So no, a lot of mobile devs are making things for three platforms.

If you're only worried about having multiple versions of Angry Birds having most of the top 50 apps is fantastic, but most people regularly use apps that are in the top 1,000 or 10,000 apps and they don't just want a version of it they want as good of a version as everyone else has; and that is where the problem with Windows phone is.

Most of the app developers I know focus their development on ios because they're getting the most sales off of those platforms; so features are implemented first on ios and then ported to Android some time later. With such tiny userbases and abysmal software sales, development for Blackberry and Windows devices is usually an after-thought; and many of these products are years behind in features compared to their android version, which are weeks or months behind their ios version.

 

To use videogame systems as an analogy, would you buy into a videogame system that promised to release 8 of the top 10 games in a year knowing that dramatically inferior ports of 30 of the remaining 40 top 50 games wouldn't be released for 18 months and the other 12 games wouldn't be released at all?



Shubhank said:
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57555141-75/microsoft-says-its-sold-40-million-windows-8-licenses-so-far/

Win 8 is selling faster. Bam Bam Bam!

And financially Apple stocks is more down than Microsoft in the last month. Still like Apple ?

Well yes, because it's HALF THE PRICE. So profit is down assuming Win8 cost the same to develop. It's still not pushing hardware. Consumers are not jumping to buy Win8 PCs, or PCs in general because of WinPhone/WinRT.

Yes, Apple is still ridiculously profitable. I don't view stock moves like that as very important. 



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Cyrus_ATX said:
http://www.zdnet.com/wall-street-ratings-firm-casts-doubt-on-npds-early-windows-8-sales-data-7000008492/


Mega Bam Bam!!!

Read the actual article. It doesn't doubt the numbers collected, PC sales are down.

It saying "but I'm sure it'll go up! A strong product pipeline blah blah!" sounds like stock pumping to me.



Soleron said:
Argh_College said:
Soleron said:
Argh_College said:

IOS is 2nd and they make way more money than Google

Precisely. Apple's margins >>>> Android or Winphone margins. From the actual OS, MS and Google don't make much. Profit, unlike Apple, comes from the tie-in to their other products: search, the store, Windows 8, Win8 tablets. And Win8 is selling less than Win7 last year despite being a new OS, so it's already failed at promoting Windows.

Go and look at MS's profit for the relevant division. It's not high.

LOL do u even have any source for this ??

Try harder

http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/29/npd-u-s-windows-device-sales-down-21-on-last-year-windows-8-tablet-sales-almost-non-existent/

Bam.

Oh and in case you were wondering if I'm just hating on MS because they're MS, I hate on everyone that isn't doing wellenough financially.

LOOL hahah try harder again my friend.

Pc sales =/ Windows Sales.

USA =/ World

Try to downplay MS whatever you want, just wait and see their amazing financials, great Windows and Xbox sales while i see sony on its way to bankrupt (:

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/11/22/sony-credit-downgraded-to-junk

And:

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/378391/microsoft-windows-8-outselling-windows-7



Not surprising. Windows really has become a great mobile platform. My mom grabbed a Nokia Lumia last week and after having played around with it for only a few hours while I helped her learn how to use it I realized that I must have one.

I'll be trading my Android device in right after Xmas and grabbing either the 8x HTC or the Samsung Ativ. I really like the larger screen on the Samsung for watching videos, but the smaller and lighter 8x would be preferable for taking with me when I go jogging. I hate feeling like I have a brick in my shorts pocket when I have a heavy phone on me.



Argh_College said:
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LOOL hahah try harder again my friend.

Pc sales =/ Windows Sales.

USA =/ World

Try to downplay MS whatever you want, just wait and see their amazing financials, great Windows and Xbox sales while i see sony on its way to bankrupt (:

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/11/22/sony-credit-downgraded-to-junk

And:

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/378391/microsoft-windows-8-outselling-windows-7

1. PC sales are the sales that matter to MS.
2. I live in the UK, you think I don't know that? But US is the only hard data I have. I guess the rest of the world was worse because it wasn't subject to so much hype and marketing.
3. Didn't I just tell you I don't hate on MS because they're MS. I like seeing Sony go bankrupt as well. And hopefully Nintendo. Then the people with a clue about making money can move in.
4. Dude Sony going down does not mean MS going up.
5. I just responded to the last article above. Super cheap upgrade licenses to inflate numbers mean shit.



Soleron said:
Shubhank said:
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57555141-75/microsoft-says-its-sold-40-million-windows-8-licenses-so-far/

Win 8 is selling faster. Bam Bam Bam!

And financially Apple stocks is more down than Microsoft in the last month. Still like Apple ?

Well yes, because it's HALF THE PRICE. So profit is down assuming Win8 cost the same to develop. It's still not pushing hardware. Consumers are not jumping to buy Win8 PCs, or PCs in general because of WinPhone/WinRT.

Yes, Apple is still ridiculously profitable. I don't view stock moves like that as very important. 

Half the price brings down profit but does increase Win 8 chances to capture market share by double.. The more the Win 8 is adopted..the sooner their marketplace becomes succcessful as developers will come to their platform. So in long run Apple profits will come tumbling down.

And Win8 is pushing hardware..The OEMs are exeriencing shortages.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57557191-75/windows-8-touch-pc-demand-strong/

iPad mini is also less profitable than the iPad .. so profit is also down for Apple then.

And Apple is not ridiculously profitable 

Apple Q3 profits : $8.8 billions  ---- Microsoft Q3 profits : $6.37 billions

From now please indicate in your posts that you are posting personal opinion only.