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what fucking retards



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Some people are retarded by choice it seems. There were 2 shootings in 3 days, QUICK VIDEO GAMES BEFORE THEY TAKE OUR SECOND AMMENDMENT AWAY!

I they just want to blame something else to their precious guns.



wfz said:

100% of people who have committed homicides in the last 2,000 years have also been drinkers of water.

Water is causing our minds to become sick places and turn us into bloodthirsty freaks! BAN WATER!

And all of them were given birth by women...



i will never get how some people think its sensible to blame just video games and not other media like movies and music which often times go way beyond what is found in games



o_O.Q said:

i will never get how some people think its sensible to blame just video games and not other media like movies and music which often times go way beyond what is found in games


In comparison to movies, shows, theatre and so, Video games are the new kid on the block who gets picked on. They're also alot more interactive, which I think is why they're attacked.



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Scoobes said:
dahuman said:

You can't argue with good hollow point ammo, that's for sure, if somebody comes in my house without my permission with a weapon in hand, you can bet I'd much prefer a 9mm or a 45ACP over any hunting rifle or a shotgun, and I'll always have Russian ammo with steel core ready for assholes wearing body armors and try to fuck with me, the key is still self defense. There are too many dumb fucks not taught right and that's still a parenting issue.

A lot of people can get guns anywhere in the world even if they are banned, the police a lot of times end up surplusing the guns unless they are not street legal for their funding and they usually go to the right people who don't fuck around with it, there are definitely laws involved on full automatic weapons that are made after 1986 so those either get destroyed or some corrupted fuckers will make sure they go into the black market again anyways. Guns are the new bows and arrows of the old days, people need to deal with it.

Those people can not legally own firearms unless they do it illegally, which once again, is not the fault of legit sellers and buyers who treat them right but either their own fault or their dumb ass fucking parents. You can get guns in other ways even in countries that have guns entirely banned, and people will still kill people without guns or bullets. I can not stress enough about how fucked up parenting can be in the US these days, the old old American way is much better in my book and I'm not even old, the current way is a fucking joke with no discipline or know how, and a lot of parents like to blame other things because it is NEVER their fault.

Seriously, what job do you have to be that paranoid?! Unless you work for the CIA or something, that's just over the top. Surely a 9mm is more than enough for self-defence?

OT: Apparently, Morgan Freeman had this to say:

"You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.


It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single *victim* of Columbine? Disturbed
people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem. You can help by turning off the news."
Makes sense to me, far more than that trash.
Extra question to the Americans on this site: How is mental health dealt with in the US? Before Obama-care, if you didn't have insurance or mental health wasn't covered, how would mental health problems be diagnosed?

It's called cheap and effective, Russian ammo is super cheap and they are the closest thing to armor piercing bullets that we can get legally. I have no idea on mental health though, I don't have mental health issues, that's why I can have guns legally and not shoot at random people or my family like a fucking retard. :P



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The murderer drank water; Water should be prohibited




       

@scoobes

The problem isn't the lack of treatment options. The United States is fairly progressive when it comes to mental health at all levels. Federal, State, and Local agencies will provide treatment free of charge. The government will even provide wage subsidies to those that are disabled by mental illness, or provide them with long term treatment facilities. The care isn't even substandard. The bureaucracy could be daunting, but the majority of the problem is the associated stigma.

Those who suffer from mental illness are often afraid to be diagnosed, because they think it will disqualify them from employment opportunities. Cause them to be ostracized by the community, or worst of all will cause them to be forcibly committed, and heavily sedated. Sadly some of those fears are justified, and some of them are just the product of lazy writers. Who don't understand scarey mental hospital stories are actually scarey to people who do have mental illness.

A lot of the problem has to do with how the mental health message is conveyed in the United States. We have a lot of lip service that advocates for seeking mental health, but then we have people running around tossing out slurs like psychos, schizos, manics, and crazy. So the message seems to come out like get yourself diagnosed so we know who you are. So we know to avoid you. Who in any group wants to be singled out, and then cast out.

Anyway if this gunmen had entered the building, and walked to that schools counselors office. He could have had mental health care providers there to help him in less then fifteen minutes, and they would have probably taken excellent care of him. He would have gotten a case worker, and would be in therapy before the day was out. It isn't even like it doesn't happen every day. Even with the stigma people routinely go to government buildings, and ask for help, and they get it.

To put it in simple terms. You never needed insurance to get mental health services. It was more of a universal right. I work not five miles from a state hospital for long term care, and that facility isn't anything like what the entertainment industry likes to portray. They aren't caged like animals, and they aren't mistreated. It isn't that their families are wealthy, or that they have insurance themselves. The government is providing for their treatment.

I just don't want you to have the impression that people with mental illness are neglected by our society. We put a lot of resources into making sure they get the care they need. We just need to make it easier for them to want to get that care.



Did they even find out why he did this yet? Why he killed his mom as well?



kowenicki said:
Jesus. how about looking at the parents who brought him up. the gun laws that are far too lacking and then just throw in the mix that there are certain people that just go mad... for whatever reason.

A video game is ALWAYS irrelevant, as is a movie or a book.

This. I can't believe those morons have the cheek to exploit a children massacre to push their demented and bigot agenda.



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