| weaveworld said: Sad... just sad. Second amendment kills people. |
doctors kill people (more so than gun each year)
car kill people.
spoons kill people.
people not eating the vegtables kill people
Galaki said:
Guns don't kill people. People kill people. |
People with guns kill people. All we are asking is for tests to make sure you are mentally stable to own a gun.
to be fair talking about gun laws... how many laws do ye think someone who guns down people doing their shopping adhere to?
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| Gamegears said: Something else people need to realize.. the best Gun Control.. is Self Control.. I can own all the guns I want.. if I am not using them to kill people.. it should not make a difference correct?? I believe the greatest problem with the world today is people don't have enough self control.. everybody needs something now.. or they need issues resolved now.. both of these are alot of the reasons for Gun Violence.. (There are more grant you.. alot more.. like the idea if I have not.. and you have.. then why should I not take it from you??) |
Yep thats why you should have to have tests to show you are fit to own a gun. That simple.
| ironmanDX said: The U.S gun laws are a joke.... You're all to caught up in your amendments and thinking that laws and times never evolve. The gun amendment was fine back when it was written, the world is a much different place now. Something people need to realize. |
you realize murders, violents crimes, etc, are decreasing every year, and have reached like 50 year lows, all while gun ownership is at an all time high?
gun sales are skyrocketing, especially sales of what you would call "assault rifles". gun sales reached an all time high in a year, this year (2012), gun sales this november, sset all time high. so many sales occured on black friday, that the BAFTE background check system crached, with how many calls we being place by FFLs.
it seems your theory is incorrect
| Gamegears said: And yet wihout the Second Amendment.. Japan probably would have invaded us in WW2.. or Nazi's. because they were afraid of finding people carrying guns.. they did not even try it.. also without guns.. it would be almost impossible to protect yourself or your property in this day and age.. (Remember Criminals do not follow laws.. if they did.. they would not be criminals) And tests to make sure people are mentally able to carry guns won't work either.. remember even the most mentally competent person has their dark days.. and all it takes is one of those.. and you got another shooting.. |
actually test do work. Fail!
| killerzX said: well not in this case, this guy had terrible gun control. fortunately he didnt kill more than 2. if he would have had competent gun control many more would have died. to bad the was no armed law abiding citizen with great gun control, they could have prevented this |
Ughh, If gun control was better, an idiot like that wouldn't own a gun in the first place not needing your "law abiding citizen"
Prevention is the key.
spaceguy said:
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that is already a requirement. you must pass a background check.
the only gun control i am in support of (as are almost all gun rights activists) is background checks to ensure people people who cannot own guns legally, dont get to buy them (so felons, and people who have been determined mentally unstable by doctors) if are background checks arent working, we need to improve them.
but that is the only gun restriction i support. you go to the store the owner calls up the BAFTE gives them your info, the look you up. You arent a felon, no doctors have deemed you mentally insane (mental defficiency or what ever). good to go.
killerzX said:
that is already a requirement. you must pass a background check. the only gun control i am in support of (as are almost all gun rights activists) is background checks to ensure people people who cannot own guns legally, dont get to buy them (so felons, and people who have been determined mentally unstable by doctors) if are background checks arent working, we need to improve them. but that is the only gun restriction i support. you go to the store the owner calls up the BAFTE gives them your info, the look you up. You arent a felon, no doctors have deemed you mentally insane (mental defficiency or what ever). good to go. |
How about a class? how to use it? Store it? Learn about what is the most common deaths from guns, You can teach people how to handle there guns and what steps they should take. Thats all I would want. Oh yea also a assault weapon ban. No need for that. You don't need to kill groups of people or whatever your doing with the gun.
ironmanDX said:
Prevention is the key. |
when has gun laws ever kept criminals from owning guns? because criminals follow laws, right?
and even if he somehow couldnt get his hands on a gun illegally, could he not have killed people with a sword, knife, bat, poisin, ninja stars, etc. he "only" killed 2 people, someone could easily kill more people with nothing other than their fists.
and you do know that according to the FBI, bats are the most used weapon in violent crimes, knives are second, gun dont rank in the top 5.
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