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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - Miyamoto's words just genuinely made me sad (Regarding Paper Mario)

The problem with Paper Mario is they haven't stuck to the main concept of it that made it so popular for the 1st 2 games. If they would just follow it completely without all these other features then it would be fine.




       

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VGKing said:
You may care about the story but the majority don't. Mario wants to save the princess and that's all they really need to know....

I think they can only blame themselves for it, Mario is known as a platformer, pick up and play, not a deep RPG with emotional stories.

No wonder Paper Mario flopped.

I'm sure it will sell beyond 1m and you are very misinformed on this issue.  Why it isn't doing well is because it isnt like the 1st 2 paper mario games that excelled in gameplay.  Sticker Star just doesnt excel.




       

VGKing said:
You may care about the story but the majority don't. Mario wants to save the princess and that's all they really need to know....

I think they can only blame themselves for it, Mario is known as a platformer, pick up and play, not a deep RPG with emotional stories.

No wonder Paper Mario flopped.

Which Paper Mario flopped? I think sales have been better each installment? Correct me if I'm wrong.

@OP: Remember that story has always been secondary for Miyamoto. His begins with the basic gameplay and adds on a story afterward. I actually think that's the ideal way to develop games, but I understand those who disagree.



I liked the story in The Thousand Year Door. Maybe I'm too naive but never cross in my mind what will happend in the end or about the real enemies. Super Paper Mario was just again the same final, but never ever reach the "good" (imo) story from TTYD.



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d21lewis said:
Club Nintendo!? I just choose random shit so I can hurry up and get my coins! I didn't know they were paying attention!!

Usually, they say "Why did you buy this game?" (Check all that apply)

Tucked somewhere in the choices is the option for "story". I tend to just choose one or type in "Fan of the franchise" and keep moving.


This is what I do too. I think only for Skyward sword did I actually put down I like the story since I'm a little invested in the Zelda lore. I've only played the first paper mario but I didn't like what I was seeing for this Sticker Star.



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pezus said:
JayWood2010 said:
VGKing said:
You may care about the story but the majority don't. Mario wants to save the princess and that's all they really need to know....

I think they can only blame themselves for it, Mario is known as a platformer, pick up and play, not a deep RPG with emotional stories.

No wonder Paper Mario flopped.

I'm sure it will sell beyond 1m and you are very misinformed on this issue.  Why it isn't doing well is because it isnt like the 1st 2 paper mario games that excelled in gameplay.  Sticker Star just doesnt excel.

OK, this is an "average" game that sold the exact same amount as PS: All Stars FW yet now you're sure this game will reach 1m? What's the difference?

It's Nintendo developed  and it's a Mario game.



pezus said:
JayWood2010 said:
VGKing said:
You may care about the story but the majority don't. Mario wants to save the princess and that's all they really need to know....

I think they can only blame themselves for it, Mario is known as a platformer, pick up and play, not a deep RPG with emotional stories.

No wonder Paper Mario flopped.

I'm sure it will sell beyond 1m and you are very misinformed on this issue.  Why it isn't doing well is because it isnt like the 1st 2 paper mario games that excelled in gameplay.  Sticker Star just doesnt excel.

OK, this is an "average" game that sold the exact same amount as PS: All Stars FW yet now you're sure this game will reach 1m? What's the difference?


uhm mario is the difference.  If All stars had mario then I'd predict differently.  People see mario on a boxart and are like "oooooh mario"  They look at all stars and they're like "hmm, what is this" 

You know it's true lol




       

Why doesn't anyone like Paper Mario: Sticker Star?



MDMAlliance said:
Why doesn't anyone like Paper Mario: Sticker Star?


Well for starters the lack of partners.  I also don't like the battle system and using stickers.




       

Both games are flops.



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DKCTF didn't move consoles

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