Well the discussion should be about how Sony screwed up with the price then. Consoles don't come fully formed into this world from the God of Videogames to be revered. The high-end performance it brings is very much a minus point: it wasn't necessary to sell the console, and it raised the price tag.

lol, yes that is true. I'm just saying sony hasn't even dropped the price. It'll be dead when it's at 150$ and selling this much per week. Until then, the vita is a VERY EXPENSIVE, (but quite a steal indeed!) handheld with a competitor half its own price.

OK, and nintendo screwed up with their price too, and then dropped the price, and then everything was fine.Same thing even with the tech. I remember when it was announced, and I was like "minimum 250$", and everyone tried to argue that the screens weren't expensive. Turns out, I was right.

Those screens are VERY expensive, and iirc, 3ds has lost them a bunch of money through hardware. Lowering the price didn't cut profits, it increased costs into the black. People also say that the 3d wasn't really necessary.

Was there a rebuttal in there somewhere?

It's hard for me judge the situation in Japan, but the author saying two times that the PS3 ages horrible showed his Sony prejudice. PS3 is ageing the best in its generation. It's closing down the gap to X360, the games scheduled for next year look awesome - it's still flying high!

I'm sure that Vita will sell good in Japan once they release Japan-oriented games. They desperately need Monster Hunter 4G (an upgraded version of what Nintendo will get) and a bunch of jRPGs. Cause Assassins Creed? Seriously? It started moving Vitas in the West (if even just by 20.000 a week) and that's what it was suppose to do. Still, Sony needs 2-3 HUGE games. And the "smaller" ones to finally give us what we want. We need a good FPS, a FIFA with PS3 crossplay (with all the features of the normal game) and a few other games that will form an exciting background behind these few real system sellers. My bet for a major seller would be: God of War, Monster Hunter, Final Fantasy VII: Remake and a second Uncharted game. I also wonder how well would a typical western RPG do, for example a Morrowind Remake? I would get that game :)

Plus, I'm thinking that the next generation of home consoles may prove to be a turning point for Vita. As developers predict, the cost of a game will at least double. Considering a Vita game is cheaper than a PS360 game, some developers may decide to make a Vita game because they won't afford a PS4/Xbox8 game. There were a few good core games on the Wii that went there only because of this.

That Amazon deal looks pretty sweet if people can grab it, I can't really get it right now since I've spent too much money lately and maybe I'll be thankful for it later but it was really tempting and I was already at the check out page lol.

lol I know what you mean. Unfortunately for Sony wiiU is eating into people's pockets. And also black friday as well. I just bought a 500$ tv last night, so I got no money for all stars.

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Competing against a console that is almost half it's price.
Yup, totally apparent that these comments are well reasoned and factual.




Money in the bank is money in the bank man.




lol, yes that is true. I'm just saying sony hasn't even dropped the price. It'll be dead when it's at 150$ and selling this much per week. Until then, the vita is a VERY EXPENSIVE, (but quite a steal indeed!) handheld with a competitor half its own price.






That Amazon deal looks pretty sweet if people can grab it, I can't really get it right now since I've spent too much money lately and maybe I'll be thankful for it later but it was really tempting and I was already at the check out page lol.






lol I know what you mean. Unfortunately for Sony wiiU is eating into people's pockets. And also black friday as well. I just bought a 500$ tv last night, so I got no money for all stars.




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I would say their most powerful card is not the price cut, its the bundling of the PSVita with the PS3 will be its most powerful card, Because after the PSVita no more dedicated game handhelds with physical controls will be made.

Sony already did try with the Xperia Play...that was no where near the level of sales they needed

Sony already did try with the PSVita, that too is no where near the level of sales they needed

Think about that for a sec. why worry about the Mobile Game Handheld market to compete directly with Nintendo when the PSVita can be a Touch screen controler Game pad for the PS3 and you can take the same game on the Go, for one price you get a PS3 game that can be played also on the PSVita and since the PSVita can be bundled with the PS3 you already have your handheld.

The PS3 is already selling good number, now when Consumer's buy the PS3 they will get the PSVita as a bonus to go along with it. the Price of this Combo on the PS3 can be increased, and thus lowered over time. and extend the time on the market until Sony gets enough to start off the PS4 or what ever it may be, after Sonys credit rating by fitch droped, the S&P and Moody's will follow suit soon, So Sony will push the PS3 to be on the market longer because of this. Hell Sony may not even Ship a PS4 TO COMPETE DIRECTLY WITH BOTH Microsoft and Nintendo, Sony may go with slight upgrades from now on and no longer Push for expensive hardware on any front, that includes PC's ,TV's or for that matter Smartphones and take a middle of the road design further . reduce their over all size by 65%  and just concentrate on Software and services mostly with Some hardware made but quite a lower number of devices produced. become more like Apple. a few produced models streamline further. reduce most overhead, sell off many assets

I think with the over 60% production cuts to their TV biz right now, and further cuts in man power after these credit rating's that Sony is getting at a much faster rate now in updates Kaz see's that he must do major real heavy deep cuts to Sony as a corperation.

reduction of the entire company by 60% work force and all holdings would cripple pretty much any company, but atleast the company will still be in the market much leaner and much more Nimble in the market to change directions if needed . 60% is most likely Sony reduction target number, moving forward.

Sony will no longer be as large as it was pretty much will stay that way for a very long time but once again at least the company will still be in the market.

with Playstation as one of its main products, other electronics not so much. Sony will most likely outsource for every component from Samsung or other cheap production cost hardware, ship later with the start being at a profit on the market. with little to none of the systems being sold to sell at a  loss .

and concentrate on Network software services and software sold online as their main retail channel.

mod edit: same basic conclusions but much more reasonable in the logic behind them and the wording used.  I like it.  Mod approved. -Torillian

xxpertly done :P
EDIT lol, I thought you meant the size of the post was too long, and to snip it next time.

It's a sammy 40" series 6 LED
I never knew my ps3 could look so beautiful!! Can't wait to try out journey.

Nintendo screwed up as well. In fact more so because NO ONE is buying for the 3D, vs almost no one for the PSV media features.