"2 Vita games that were hoped to be good were actually shit, and these shit games didn't move many consoles, therefore it's a hard fall for vita"

I don't see it. Isn't that a hard fall for the games?

I like how this thread did not even make it past the first page before it turned into the 3ds vs Vita

Did I say that I am a Vita owner or fan? No? Did I say that I was interested in a Vita at all? No? Then what was the point in your post?

Maybe, just maybe I think the 3DS is a steaming pile of garbage not because I'm a Vita fan (I'm not) but because it really is garbage.

Sales say that Cod is infinitely better than Alan Awake, which is far from the truth. Same for just dance and Rayman Origins. Sales are not a good indication of quality. Mario Galaxy 2 is considered by critics and fans alike one of the best games ever and its sales don't reflect that at all especially compared to New SMbWii even Galaxy 1.

Like I said, Dreamcast is a perfect example of a good console with great games that flopped for various reasons, lack of quality titles not being one of them. The psvita is doing terrible despite its great titles. The constant doom and gloom has put off a lot of people from buying it or made some even sell their vitas. Had Sony been able to cut the price like Nintendo did with 3ds, things might have been quite different. Guess we'll never know

Gotta disagree with you on this point. In 20 months, the 3DS has supported, among others, the following games:

Nintendogs + Cats
Pilotwings Resort
Super Street Fighter IV
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
Dead or Alive: Dimensions
Star Fox 64 3D
Skylanders
Super Mario 3D Land
Mario Kart 7
Resident Evil Revelations
Kid Icarus Uprising
Mario Tennis Open
Theatrhythm Final Fantasy
Kingdom Hearts 3D
New Super Mario Bros. 2
Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask
Harvest Moon: A New Beginning

I think that's pretty good so far, with more on the way. If none of those games interest you, I completely respect that. But there are a lot of franchises and genres represented on that list.

Really this guy doesn't even get a warning but when I say someone is butthurt I get banned. Great modding guys 

Sorry to burst your bubble - POP!

But the Dreamcast didn't have lots of great titles, it had a few fantastic ones and about 90% arcade shallow arcade ports that were great for half an hour bursts but not exactly top quality software designed for home. I owned one and had a few good games on it that were original and interesting, but there weren't a lot of them like you wrongly state.

The last paragraph is just filler and not true, the vita doesn't have lots of great titles, it has a few.

We're not stupid, we know sales doesn't = great game. But it's a pretty good rules of thumb for mainstream titles. When it's a game that's original and different then the rule doesn't apply anywhere near as much. Hence Alan Wake is a great game but it was a bit weird and the concepts used were quite strange and certainly not a mainstream game.

Mario Galaxy 2, although mainstream Mario antics, was just another Mario Galaxy. Everyone bought Mario Galaxy 1 because it was an introduction to the Wii, most people bought it WITH the Wii that I knew. Mario Galaxy 2 was for people who wanted more, and since the software ratio on the Wii is abysmal it makes sense. Also, you have contradicted yourself by saying great sales don't = great game. NSMBW and Galaxy 1 were considered great games and they got great sales.

If you want to bring the Dreamcast into it, we all know what happened to that don't we.

In summary you're being overly positive towards the Vita and basing your argument on cherry picked ideas that don't really add up imo.

Good

I was taking the piss out of what he always posts.. It's what he always says everywhere to people 

Oh trust me I'm not Vita hardcore fan.. Who said this has anything to do with how the PS4 will perform? I'm sorry for being so rude to you before but you need to stop with your crazy posts all over the place. It's very annoying to see someone so biased