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Rath said:
jonnybmk said:
The Muslim world hates Israel.

They always have and always will. The warring Muslim population cannot be reasoned with and have been killing each other for thousands of years.

A Muslim could not tell you logically why they hate Israel. Only that they do and feel that they should be wiped from the face of the Earth.

Israel is not in the wrong; they only respond to attacks against them and are NOT the ones suicide bombing hospitals, markets, etc.

It is the blood thirsty religion of Islam that needs to be dealt with - fiercely.

 

So you're calling the Muslims bloodthirsty and then declaring that they need to be dealt with 'fiercely'? Pot, kettle, black.

 

I didn't say we should chop their heads off or bomb their babies. Muslims kill the innocent for no reason - they should be punished for this. Muslims are not doing anything other than killing the inncoent in the name of Allah.

Punishment and murder are different.



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jonnybmk said:

I didn't say we should chop their heads off or bomb their babies. Muslims kill the innocent for no reason - they should be punished for this. Muslims are not doing anything other than killing the inncoent in the name of Allah.

Punishment and murder are different.


You really do like to tar them all with the same brush don't you?

There are some nasty bloodthirsty Muslims out there, there are also plenty of peace loving and amicable Muslims out there. To declare 'Muslims kill the innocent for no reason' is simply generalizing a large group of people based on the actions of a small sub-group.



As for the topic at hand. What needs to be done is that Israel and Fatah need to come to an acceptable two state solution which will involve both of them compromising to some degree - Israel on Jerusalem and Fatah on the right of return.

For this to happen the USA will need to pressure Israel and the Arab world will need to pressure Fatah.



not quite directly on topic here...but i watched lawrence of arabia last night for the first time. it was well done even if i wasnt a huge fan... it was interesting though, i would recommend at least watching it once. i couldnt help but think the arabs on the whole havent changed in the last 70 years except for becoming obscenely wealthy on oil money.



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Rath said:
jonnybmk said:
 

I didn't say we should chop their heads off or bomb their babies. Muslims kill the innocent for no reason - they should be punished for this. Muslims are not doing anything other than killing the inncoent in the name of Allah.

Punishment and murder are different.


You really do like to tar them all with the same brush don't you?

There are some nasty bloodthirsty Muslims out there, there are also plenty of peace loving and amicable Muslims out there. To declare 'Muslims kill the innocent for no reason' is simply generalizing a large group of people based on the actions of a small sub-group.

People always say the murderous atrocity-committing Muslims are the minority - so how come the majority isn't out there denouncing them?

I never hear the "majority peace loving" Muslims speaking out against the violence.

The reason is: all Muslims SUPPORT the violence, the minority commit the violence. Both are one and the same in my book.



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jonnybmk said:
Judaism as a religion does not tell you to kill people that do not believe in it.

The murderous cult Islam does tell you to do that. How did it get the name "Religion of Peace"?

tell me how would you react if i came home to you and took what is yours and killed your family members? would you give me a flower and tell me kindly to stop or will you kill me?

Islam is a religion of piece but it is also a religion that promotes what is right and what is wrong. as i said in my previous post if someone takes something from you you have the right to take it back and if you see that as evil then how do you live your life? do you accept when people insult you? as someone said in a video once in an Islamic debate "i like it when people insult me" just so that he doesn't have to admit that what some people did was wrong.

Being peaceful does not mean you let people walk all over you and let them take what is yours!

read my post and read history. if what you said is how Islam is then why did Christians and Jews live peacefully among Muslims?



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jonnybmk said:
Rath said:
jonnybmk said:
 

I didn't say we should chop their heads off or bomb their babies. Muslims kill the innocent for no reason - they should be punished for this. Muslims are not doing anything other than killing the inncoent in the name of Allah.

Punishment and murder are different.


You really do like to tar them all with the same brush don't you?

There are some nasty bloodthirsty Muslims out there, there are also plenty of peace loving and amicable Muslims out there. To declare 'Muslims kill the innocent for no reason' is simply generalizing a large group of people based on the actions of a small sub-group.

People always say the murderous atrocity-committing Muslims are the minority - so how come the majority isn't out there denouncing them?

I never hear the "majority peace loving" Muslims speaking out against the violence.

The reason is: all Muslims SUPPORT the violence, the minority commit the violence. Both are one and the same in my book.


http://groups.colgate.edu/aarislam/response.htm



Roma said:
jonnybmk said:
Judaism as a religion does not tell you to kill people that do not believe in it.

The murderous cult Islam does tell you to do that. How did it get the name "Religion of Peace"?

tell me how would you react if i came home to you and took what is yours and killed your family members? would you give me a flower and tell me kindly to stop or will you kill me?

Islam is a religion of piece but it is also a religion that promotes what is right and what is wrong. as i said in my previous post if someone takes something from you you have the right to take it back and if you see that as evil then how do you live your life? do you accept when people insult you? as someone said in a video once in an Islamic debate "i like it when people insult me" just so that he doesn't have to admit that what some people did was wrong.

Being peaceful does not mean you let people walk all over you and let them take what is yours!

If you killed my family, I would bring you to JUSTICE.

I would not rape your family members, cut their heads off, and drag their dead bodies through the streets.

The nature of Muslims is of evil. It has  nothing to do with justice or attaining peaceful outcomes. 



Yeah so Islamic justice is an eye for an eye.

 

You bomb one country and kill innocents, accept being bombed yourself instead of saying "Muh Freedomz" and rebelling.

 

If you kill anyone or disable anyone expect the same treatment. You will get no mercy, except from the relatives of the person you have affected.

 

Read up Shariah Law first, before commenting on what media feeds you. Read up "blood money".



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