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Also 256gb hdd sounds to me like digital distribution is going full steam ahead



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the_dengle said:

Sigh... you can't aim for 1080p @ 60fps. If you have that much extra power to work with, developers will beef up the graphics until it's running at 720 @ 30. They will use that power if you make it available to them.

Yeah, that's why I don't think these rumours are legit. Sony would never commucinate in those terms when explaining the power of the console to developers or when expressing what they would like to see from developers in next gen games.

I mean, the "1080p" thing could be a selling point that Sony would like to see as a target, but not the 60 frames per second, and especially not the combination of the two.



Slimebeast said:
the_dengle said:

Sigh... you can't aim for 1080p @ 60fps. If you have that much extra power to work with, developers will beef up the graphics until it's running at 720 @ 30. They will use that power if you make it available to them.

Yeah, that's why I don't think these rumours are legit. Sony would never commucinate in those terms when explaining the power of the console to developers or when expressing what they would like to see from developers in next gen games.

I mean, the "1080p" thing could be a selling point that Sony would like to see as a target, but not the 60 frames per second, and especially not the combination of the two.

It's going to be one or the other, with a few games going for both. Which is a lot better than both being sacrificed 90% of the time.



Andrespetmonkey said:
Slimebeast said:
the_dengle said:

Sigh... you can't aim for 1080p @ 60fps. If you have that much extra power to work with, developers will beef up the graphics until it's running at 720 @ 30. They will use that power if you make it available to them.

Yeah, that's why I don't think these rumours are legit. Sony would never commucinate in those terms when explaining the power of the console to developers or when expressing what they would like to see from developers in next gen games.

I mean, the "1080p" thing could be a selling point that Sony would like to see as a target, but not the 60 frames per second, and especially not the combination of the two.

It's going to be one or the other, with a few games going for both. Which is a lot better than both being sacrificed 90% of the time.

No, dude. 60 fps is simply too expensive. COD, hacknslash and racing games will keep being 60 fps in next gen but almost no other developers will want to sacrifice graphics quality for smoothness.

Unreal Engine 4 is already here and shows the target of what most developers will want to achieve graphically, and even next gen consoles will be too weak to do it with 60fps.

1080 p remains to be seen. I think it will become the new standard but there will also be quite a few games who will want go for 720p.



That all sounds pretty legit and fits nicely with previous rumors. Also states exactly what has been said by myself and quite a few others. They are not bringing another $600 monster to the table. They will instead focus on mid-high level specs to keep costs low enough to sell cost or just above at launch.

We'll see a $400 console at the most and something that is nominally more powerful than WiiU. This also supports the 2013 launch date. ;)



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I expect a $300-$400 price range in stores, and a $800-$1000 price tag in online auctions.



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superchunk said:
That all sounds pretty legit and fits nicely with previous rumors. Also states exactly what has been said by myself and quite a few others. They are not bringing another $600 monster to the table. They will instead focus on mid-high level specs to keep costs low enough to sell cost or just above at launch.

We'll see a $400 console at the most and something that is nominally more powerful than WiiU. This also supports the 2013 launch date. ;)

Everytime you and lauch date along with ;) is put together, for some weird reason I remember jay520.



mantlepiecek said:
superchunk said:
That all sounds pretty legit and fits nicely with previous rumors. Also states exactly what has been said by myself and quite a few others. They are not bringing another $600 monster to the table. They will instead focus on mid-high level specs to keep costs low enough to sell cost or just above at launch.

We'll see a $400 console at the most and something that is nominally more powerful than WiiU. This also supports the 2013 launch date. ;)

Everytime you and lauch date along with ;) is put together, for some weird reason I remember jay520.

lol, yeah but we have a new bet regarding the PS4 and 2013. He will wear the same badge of shame after E32013.



Slimebeast said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
Slimebeast said:
the_dengle said:

Sigh... you can't aim for 1080p @ 60fps. If you have that much extra power to work with, developers will beef up the graphics until it's running at 720 @ 30. They will use that power if you make it available to them.

Yeah, that's why I don't think these rumours are legit. Sony would never commucinate in those terms when explaining the power of the console to developers or when expressing what they would like to see from developers in next gen games.

I mean, the "1080p" thing could be a selling point that Sony would like to see as a target, but not the 60 frames per second, and especially not the combination of the two.

It's going to be one or the other, with a few games going for both. Which is a lot better than both being sacrificed 90% of the time.

No, dude. 60 fps is simply too expensive. COD, hacknslash and racing games will keep being 60 fps in next gen but almost no other developers will want to sacrifice graphics quality for smoothness.

Unreal Engine 4 is already here and shows the target of what most developers will want to achieve graphically, and even next gen consoles will be too weak to do it with 60fps.

I think a few more FPSs and sport titles will go for it.



Bristow9091 said:

I wonder if devs will go a resolution between 720p and 1080p, sort of how a few of them don't use full 720p and go for 640p to help maintain a higher framerate?


i highly doubt that. the difference between 720p and 1080p is sometimes hard to see - why choose another resolution between it?

and as i said before: i don't really care for 1080p - i would prefer 720p with decent aa over 1080p.