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WiiU shouldve come out in

2006 116 35.69%
 
2012 149 45.85%
 
show me the goddamn results 60 18.46%
 
Total:325
EdHieron said:
If it's 4 or more times more powerful than Wii U ( and it seems as if Sony is certainly intent on releasing a powerful console next gen), then PS4 ( and Nextbox ) should be considered to be in their own gen.


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IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
BasilZero said:
I thought the Wii was in its own generation too xD!

People who bought 100 million wiis (close to 100 mil), I would say 1/3 of them are xbox-ps3 owners! xD.


So...

25% of Xbox/PS owners have a Wii?  O.O

Only if there is zero overlap between owners of 360s and owners of PS3s.

If we assume, say, a 1/4 overlap from the 360's perspective - that is, 1/4 of 360 owners also own a PS3, then the numbers work out a bit differently.

1/4 of 360's base is 16.78 million. So total PS3/360 install base is 115.325 million. Therefore, if 1/3 of Wii owners also owns one of the other two consoles at least, that's over 27.5%.

More generally, if the overlap between PS3 and 360, from the perspective of the 360, is X (as a fraction), and the overlap between Wii and PS3/360, from the perspective of the Wii, is Y (again, as a fraction), then, as of 2nd of June 2012, the fraction of PS3/360 owners who own a Wii, Z, is given by

Z = 96 Y / (67.1 (1-X) + 65)

Just for the sake of it... if we normalise and simplify a bit, we get

Z = Y / (1.376 - 0.699 X)

I'm a mathematician. Can you tell?



Aielyn said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
BasilZero said:
I thought the Wii was in its own generation too xD!

People who bought 100 million wiis (close to 100 mil), I would say 1/3 of them are xbox-ps3 owners! xD.


So...

25% of Xbox/PS owners have a Wii?  O.O

Only if there is zero overlap between owners of 360s and owners of PS3s.

If we assume, say, a 1/4 overlap from the 360's perspective - that is, 1/4 of 360 owners also own a PS3, then the numbers work out a bit differently.

1/4 of 360's base is 16.78 million. So total PS3/360 install base is 115.325 million. Therefore, if 1/3 of Wii owners also owns one of the other two consoles at least, that's over 27.5%.

More generally, if the overlap between PS3 and 360, from the perspective of the 360, is X (as a fraction), and the overlap between Wii and PS3/360, from the perspective of the Wii, is Y (again, as a fraction), then, as of 2nd of June 2012, the fraction of PS3/360 owners who own a Wii, Z, is given by

Z = 96 Y / (67.1 (1-X) + 65)

Just for the sake of it... if we normalise and simplify a bit, we get

Z = Y / X)

I'm a mathematician. Can you tell?



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chocoloco said:
Mad55 said:
chocoloco said:
Agreed, my ps3 did the ylod and I am buying a new one instead of the wii U.

What does your post have to do with the article?

The same as those that just said true, or he is right before me. Mine says that I think the Nintendo is playing catch up so instead of buying the wii u I will replace the same PS3 that can provide the same old third party and hardware I always had. 

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I guess that this means that Nintendo isn't competing with Sony and Microsoft - just like this gen.

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Bad PsWii60! You are turning him to even more of a monster! The horror!

LOL, That's actually pretty light trolling, not completely bannable; borderline bannable at best. Besides, there are much better trolls out there that turns it into art


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I always felt that the Wii was not the same "Generation" as the PS3/360. For example, major third party titles like Final Fantasy XIII or Assassin's Creed where not published on the Wii. Other Titles had a version for PS3/360 and another Version for PS2/Wii/(PSP).

The Wii also wasn't a direct competitor who could steal away an important game from the PS3/360. The control scheme was also a problem, because the controller of the Wii was too different from the PS3/360 controller, making it more difficult to port the game to the Wii.

The Wii U will close the gap and will take the Wii to the same Level with the PS3/360, so that it will get some games along with them. But since the Wii missed the beginning of some franchises I somehow doubt that the sales figures will be relatively small. The difference in the install base might cause some relatively horrible numbers compared to the established consoles (Assassin's Creed 3 for example).

I somehow feel that the Wii U will have a hard time. The Wii hast lost its steam lately and the software draught left a bitter taste. The casual crowd might not spend another € 200-€ 300 for a console when they already stopped playing their old one. The Wii U might not get the same press hype as the WII. In a big German newspaper it was cited amongst the top5 disappointments of the E3.

All in all, I think that Sony has a good understanding of the Situation of the Wii. the VITA-Situation is also not too bad. People are just too impatient. The 3DS had a week start, but the transition from DS to 3DS went rather smoothly. The PSP is still doing relatively strong and there are still great games coming out for it in Japan.

That might be the reason why Sony and Microsoft are still holding back their new consoles. They simply could have a horrible start as long as people are not willing to make the transition to the next generation.