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WiiU shouldve come out in

2006 116 35.69%
 
2012 149 45.85%
 
show me the goddamn results 60 18.46%
 
Total:325
BasilZero said:
Jumpin said:
Generation is dependent on when it arrived.

I.E. Despite Arnold Schwarzenegger being much more powerful than David Bowie, they're still of the same generation.

Despite Katherine Schwarzenegger and Patrick Shriver being much less powerful than Arnold Schwarzenegger, they are still his children, and therefore the next generation.


You just compared genetic/bio generation to a generation of technology....it doesnt work like that.

Have to agree.

If someone were to design a new console targeted at 8-bit retro gaming fans, based upon a 68k or similar 8 bit CPU, etc. and released it in 2012, it would not be an 8th gen console. 

But, for the sake of historical records, every bit of new console hardware does have to be categorized as belonging to X generation of hardware, regardless of whether it's up to the minute current, or matured/dated technology. Hence, the Wii will be referenced as belonging to the 7th gen of hardware despite being based upon modestly updated 6th gen hardware specs.

As everyone knows, the real progress of the Wii over the GC was in the user input of the controller, not in the hardware specs of the box itself. Every attempt I've seen to convince anyone otherwise really just needs to look at the end results of the visuals of the games themselves to see the reality of the difference between "7th gen" Wii and 7th gen PS3/Xbox 360. 



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I'd have to agree. It is simple to think linear but many times things are actually 2D. All systems are moving forward in generations but they can also move side to side. The HD twins have gone right while the Wii went left. So far though the Wii U is switching things up as Nintendo decides to go right again. Interesting...



Nintendo's next gen doesn't start until Sony says so.



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Apparently Nintendo skewed the space-time continuum when it released the Wii.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

If it's 4 or more times more powerful than Wii U ( and it seems as if Sony is certainly intent on releasing a powerful console next gen), then PS4 ( and Nextbox ) should be considered to be in their own gen.



EdHieron said:
If it's 4 or more times more powerful than Wii U ( and it seems as if Sony is certainly intent on releasing a powerful console next gen), then PS4 ( and Nextbox ) should be considered to be in their own gen.


I am guessing you dont know who Arnold Schwarzenegger is.



 

 

IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
BasilZero said:
I thought the Wii was in its own generation too xD!

People who bought 100 million wiis (close to 100 mil), I would say 1/3 of them are xbox-ps3 owners! xD.


So...

25% of Xbox/PS owners have a Wii?  O.O

Only if there is zero overlap between owners of 360s and owners of PS3s.

If we assume, say, a 1/4 overlap from the 360's perspective - that is, 1/4 of 360 owners also own a PS3, then the numbers work out a bit differently.

1/4 of 360's base is 16.78 million. So total PS3/360 install base is 115.325 million. Therefore, if 1/3 of Wii owners also owns one of the other two consoles at least, that's over 27.5%.

More generally, if the overlap between PS3 and 360, from the perspective of the 360, is X (as a fraction), and the overlap between Wii and PS3/360, from the perspective of the Wii, is Y (again, as a fraction), then, as of 2nd of June 2012, the fraction of PS3/360 owners who own a Wii, Z, is given by

Z = 96 Y / (67.1 (1-X) + 65)

Just for the sake of it... if we normalise and simplify a bit, we get

Z = Y / (1.376 - 0.699 X)

I'm a mathematician. Can you tell?



Aielyn said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
BasilZero said:
I thought the Wii was in its own generation too xD!

People who bought 100 million wiis (close to 100 mil), I would say 1/3 of them are xbox-ps3 owners! xD.


So...

25% of Xbox/PS owners have a Wii?  O.O

Only if there is zero overlap between owners of 360s and owners of PS3s.

If we assume, say, a 1/4 overlap from the 360's perspective - that is, 1/4 of 360 owners also own a PS3, then the numbers work out a bit differently.

1/4 of 360's base is 16.78 million. So total PS3/360 install base is 115.325 million. Therefore, if 1/3 of Wii owners also owns one of the other two consoles at least, that's over 27.5%.

More generally, if the overlap between PS3 and 360, from the perspective of the 360, is X (as a fraction), and the overlap between Wii and PS3/360, from the perspective of the Wii, is Y (again, as a fraction), then, as of 2nd of June 2012, the fraction of PS3/360 owners who own a Wii, Z, is given by

Z = 96 Y / (67.1 (1-X) + 65)

Just for the sake of it... if we normalise and simplify a bit, we get

Z = Y / X)

I'm a mathematician. Can you tell?



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